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170 is not Pavlik's weight.. He would destroy Hopkins at 160

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
    Against all rationale, Hopkins looked like a younger fighter against Pavlik than he did Taylor. Sharper, more aggressive, and better focused. This Hopkins would have beaten Taylor decisively instead of giving away the early rounds.
    Hopkins himself said he was able to capitilize on his speed advantage against Pavlik, which is what helped him win the fight. He didn't have that advantage against Taylor. Styles make fights, and the primary reason "this Hopkins", as you put it, looks like a different fighter than the Hopkins that lost to Taylor, is because of who he was fighting.

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    • #32
      What a shockingly dumb thread.

      115-113 decisions get reversed by weight issues... Not 119-107 decisions.

      There is nothing that Pavlik could do to offset Hopkins's movement and defense... If he had it, we would have seen it, for at least some of tonight.

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      • #33
        His rematch with Taylor was a catchweight at 168 and 170 at Hopkins..

        Pavlik is a Natural middleweight and he would destroy Hopkins there.

        What did you see in tonights fight that made you even think Pavlik has a chance against Bhop in any weight class you idiot? Weight can't make up for lack of boxing ability. Just go kill yourself for this ****** post. Blame your parents in the suicide note for making you so ****** too.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
          Of course he would destroy Hopkins at 160 because Hopkins can't make 160...

          Unless you mean prime for prime, if so it would be a bigger mismatch.
          u beat me to it. at this point of his career Hopkins cant even make 160 without killing himself. Pavlik would destroy him cause of it.

          now in his prime yea hopkins destroy pavlik at 160 he's just too great of a defensive fighter. he's not someone u can pick when to throw ur power shots (which is pavlik strength) because u cant find him he moves his body so well n with such coordination. Hopkins probably KO's him in 8 rds...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MakeDamnSure View Post
            His rematch with Taylor was a catchweight at 168 and 170 at Hopkins..

            Pavlik is a Natural middleweight and he would destroy Hopkins there.
            You still owe me 10K for the Margarito win.

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            • #36
              Rubbish thread.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
                No1 destroys Bernard Hopkins. Excuses...
                very true...............

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by MakeDamnSure View Post
                  Pavlik is a Natural middleweight and he would destroy Hopkins there.
                  No, I'm sorry. That's just not true.



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                  • #39
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                    • #40
                      Bull****, weight had nothing to do with it. He was eating healthy and not draining himself for this fight. If anything it helped him.

                      Lets not act like Pavlik is a small 5'9 guy who needs to stuff himself in order to make 170. The guy still had to lose weight to get to 170, not gain any.

                      THIS WAS ALL STYLE AND HOPKINS OUTCLASSED HIM.

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