Who has the better resume at 130? Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio?

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  • wmute
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    #41
    Originally posted by Sonic Flood
    Pacquiao is greater at 130.. Beating Mexican ATG is a great achievement.

    This isn't even close..
    i guess trevor berbick is a great HW then...

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    • wmute
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      #42
      This one looks like an occasion to put more fanboys on ignore, but I see JOM's in that list, so maybe there is a point...

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        #43
        Pacquiao by a mile

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          #44
          Mayweather by a mile. The fact that this poll is even close makes me want to kick somebody in the balls.

          The resume the original poster posted as Manny's at 130lbs is highly inaccurate.

          The first Marquez fight took place at 126lbs, not 130lbs.

          As did the first bout against Barrera.

          Manny's record at 130lbs is actually the following:

          Lost a UD to Erik Morales
          TKO'd Hector Velazquez
          TKO'd Erik Morales
          UD'd Oscar Larios
          KO'd Erik Morales
          KO'd Jorge Solis
          UD'd Barrera
          SD'd Marquez

          You can add all that up and it still doesn't top Floyd's blowout of an undefeated, prime wrecking ball of Diego Corrales. Mainly because the SD to Marquez was highly disputed, and the blowouts of Morales came at the tail end of Erik's long career.

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            #45
            Barrera and Morales are not even great 130 pounders. Maybe not even better than above average.

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            • MakeDamnSure
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              #46
              Floyd fought a weight drained Chico..

              And Morales was only 27 years old when Pac fought him.. He was even competitive against Diaz...

              Pacquiao by a mile.. No question about it

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                #47
                Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                Floyd fought a weight drained Chico..

                And Morales was only 27 years old when Pac fought him.. He was even competitive against Diaz...

                Pacquiao by a mile.. No question about it
                So Chico was weight drained? That's the first time I've heard that one. Usually it's the "he was distracted by having to go to jail" one I hear most often.

                And Morales was actually 29 years olf when he fought Pac the first time, 30 the second time, and 31 the third time out. Also, keep in mind you're talking about a guy who started boxing at age 5.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  Mayweather by a mile. The fact that this poll is even close makes me want to kick somebody in the balls.

                  The resume the original poster posted as Manny's at 130lbs is highly inaccurate.

                  The first Marquez fight took place at 126lbs, not 130lbs.

                  As did the first bout against Barrera.

                  Manny's record at 130lbs is actually the following:

                  Lost a UD to Erik Morales
                  TKO'd Hector Velazquez
                  TKO'd Erik Morales
                  UD'd Oscar Larios
                  KO'd Erik Morales
                  KO'd Jorge Solis
                  UD'd Barrera
                  SD'd Marquez

                  You can add all that up and it still doesn't top Floyd's blowout of an undefeated, prime wrecking ball of Diego Corrales. Mainly because the SD to Marquez was highly disputed, and the blowouts of Morales came at the tail end of Erik's long career.
                  Not going to disagree with your argument....but wanted to add some facts worth noting.

                  2nd Morales fight - ranked ring mag #4p4p despite loss and age
                  3rd Morales fight - ranked #5p4p
                  2nd Barrera fight - #4p4p
                  2nd Marquez fight - #3p4p

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    Mayweather by a mile. The fact that this poll is even close makes me want to kick somebody in the balls.

                    The resume the original poster posted as Manny's at 130lbs is highly inaccurate.

                    The first Marquez fight took place at 126lbs, not 130lbs.

                    As did the first bout against Barrera.

                    Manny's record at 130lbs is actually the following:

                    Lost a UD to Erik Morales
                    TKO'd Hector Velazquez
                    TKO'd Erik Morales
                    UD'd Oscar Larios
                    KO'd Erik Morales
                    KO'd Jorge Solis
                    UD'd Barrera
                    SD'd Marquez

                    You can add all that up and it still doesn't top Floyd's blowout of an undefeated, prime wrecking ball of Diego Corrales. Mainly because the SD to Marquez was highly disputed, and the blowouts of Morales came at the tail end of Erik's long career.
                    Like I said this is crystal clear ignore list material...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                      Not going to disagree with your argument....but wanted to add some facts worth noting.

                      2nd Morales fight - ranked ring mag #4p4p despite loss and age
                      3rd Morales fight - ranked #5p4p
                      2nd Barrera fight - #4p4p
                      2nd Marquez fight - #3p4p
                      Good points, and I won't disagree with your argument either.

                      However, I will add, this is Ring Magazine we're talking about. Their rankings have been pretty much crap in the last 10 years.

                      Then again, you can always argue that any mythical P4P ranking is crap, simply based on how status is achieved.....

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