The Official Iceman John Scully Thread

[fightingfigs]

Timothy Bradley: Saw him as amateur but not as a pro yet

Devon Alexander: Same as Bradley

Floyd Mayweather Jr: A genius in the ring..so confident, trains like amadman, very smart in there...picks his hots as well as anyone ever has

Kelly Pavlik: Little bit raw but is so determined, hits hard, stays with his game plan, seems like a very clean living kid and

Andre Berto: Saw him more as an amateur than as a pro...has fast hands...seems like a nice kid out of the ring...still improving, he should be quite a bit better in three years or so and his game then will be so much more well rounded than it is right now...I think they rushed him a bit in a certain way of thinking and soon he may be in over his head...IMO, no way is he ready for Margarito yet

Hey Johnny do you think that Mayweather vs Pacqiao or Cotto would be more interesting?

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Hey Johnny do you think that Mayweather vs Pacqiao or Cotto would be more interesting?

Unfortunately for boxing fans -and this isnt a knock on Floyd- but the interesting part comes from watching to see if his opponents can hit cleanly more than a few times...can they get him tired and force him to trade big shots...Pac has that spoeed and energy and Cotto has that size and strength...they bring the real interest in terms of action we crave...but if aint broke dont fix it. Floyd has nothing to fix...

[catalinul]

John,you're thoughts on the recently passed away Punching Postman Tony Thornton?

[We want Floyd]

SCULLY,

Do you think PAC has an inside shot at beating Floyd?

And, who do you think would be more competitive against Floyd, PAC or Cotto?

As always, thanks champ.


Oh, BTW, we are curious if you know who Snuff Armstrong is, we're not asking you to reveal his identity(i'd be cool though,lol), but do you know his real identity?

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

John,you're thoughts on the recently passed away Punching Postman Tony Thornton?

wow, man, that one really caught me off guard when I heard about it...I actually talk quite a bit about our fight in my book and it makes me think of him sometimes...made me wonder where he has been...I remember one thing, kind of tells you my impressions of him...I always took him as a really nice, laid back kind of guy, not a thing, not a vicious guy or a trashtalker etc. etc...when we fought, no excuses but the truth is that I had a very hard time making weight for that fight...sat in the steam room for 14 straight days, including right before the weigh-in...I was very weight drained...so usually when we are at a weigh in we try to put on a game face, act tough etc...but we get there and I didnt really want to be there, wasnt in the mood for it all...just feeling terrible..and Tony is near me and hes trying hard to give me the evil stare...he is trying to look at me hard, you know? And I recalled seeing him interviewed on TV and I knew what type of guy he REALLY was...and I kept thinking to myself (and I put this in my book, I used to wonder what he would say when he read it), "Look, man, I've been sitting in the steam room for fourteen days in a row, I just got out of the one down the hall five minutes ago. I havent eaten in three days. I weighed twelve pounds more than I do right now about three days ago. So you can save the tough guy act for someone else, OK? I mean...you're a MAILMAN!!!

RIP, T.T.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

SCULLY,
Do you think PAC has an inside shot at beating Floyd? And, who do you think would be more competitive against Floyd, PAC or Cotto?

As always, thanks champ.

Oh, BTW, we are curious if you know who Snuff Armstrong is, we're not asking you to reveal his identity(i'd be cool though,lol), but do you know his real identity?

Not sure who SNUFF IS...Is he a poster on this board do you mean??? Does he say he is a fighter?

I think Pac may give Floyd more trouble to be honest because of his size and his "smallness"...he's unafraid, very fast with his punch release and with his body movements...fights smart fights...fast movement will make it tough for a bigger man to really pin him down (think Shaun George-Chris Byrd kind of in that Byrd was used to fighting MUCH bigger men and when he came down to fight a fleet footed, fast punching light heavy he had no answers, he was CLEARLY bothered by the body and punch speed difference...) not that Pac will beat him, havent made up my mind yet, but I think he presents much more problems stylistically than Cotto does.

[catalinul]

wow, man, that one really caught me off guard when I heard about it...I actually talk quite a bit about our fight in my book and it makes me think of him sometimes...made me wonder where he has been...I remember one thing, kind of tells you my impressions of him...I always took him as a really nice, laid back kind of guy, not a thing, not a vicious guy or a trashtalker etc. etc...when we fought, no excuses but the truth is that I had a very hard time making weight for that fight...sat in the steam room for 14 straight days, including right before the weigh-in...I was very weight drained...so usually when we are at a weigh in we try to put on a game face, act tough etc...but we get there and I didnt really want to be there, wasnt in the mood for it all...just feeling terrible..and Tony is near me and hes trying hard to give me the evil stare...he is trying to look at me hard, you know? And I recalled seeing him interviewed on TV and I knew what type of guy he REALLY was...and I kept thinking to myself (and I put this in my book, I used to wonder what he would say when he read it), "Look, man, I've been sitting in the steam room for fourteen days in a row, I just got out of the one down the hall five minutes ago. I havent eaten in three days. I weighed twelve pounds more than I do right now about three days ago. So you can save the tough guy act for someone else, OK? I mean...you're a MAILMAN!!!

RIP, T.T.

Awesome story man.Thank you.

James Toney recently talked opposition and named T.T. the toughest fighter he ever fought.That says a lot.

[We want Floyd]

Not sure who SNUFF IS...Is he a poster on this board do you mean??? Does he say he is a fighter?

I think Pac may give Floyd more trouble to be honest because of his size and his "smallness"...he's unafraid, very fast with his punch release and with his body movements...fights smart fights...fast movement will make it tough for a bigger man to really pin him down (think Shaun George-Chris Byrd kind of in that Byrd was used to fighting MUCH bigger men and when he came down to fight a fleet footed, fast punching light heavy he had no answers, he was CLEARLY bothered by the body and punch speed difference...) not that Pac will beat him, havent made up my mind yet, but I think he presents much more problems stylistically than Cotto does.

Yes, Snuff Armstrong claims to be a fighter, I believe he's a fighter, but us members are up in the air whether he's Verno or Antonio, lol. I'm kinda wishin' it's Mr Tarver though.

As far as PAC, yeah, I also think that PAC would be more of a challenge for Floyd due to his speed. But, PAC really sucks at cutting off the ring.

I got a chance to see PAC train at WCG when they use to allow the public in. One thing I did not observe when watching PAC on t.v., is just how "elusive" he is. Not necessarily on the same mold of elusive such as Pernell/Floyd, but, PAC in that ring is like chasing a mouse, he has no pattern, he's all over the place.

I think, PAC, in a way, should flip the script on Floyd and have Floyd find him with his jab. what do you think.

The thing with Floyd, is that he's an in-the-pocket kinda guy, so, eventhough he's got great foot speed, I wanna see how he would do, if the tables were turned on him. Kinda like how Barrera did to Naz(MAB did it with his jab), but I think PAC could do it with his zig-zag, in-out movement.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Yea, man, it is MUCH tougher IMO to box a much smaller faster oppnent than it is to fight a bigger man or equal sized guy...even now I have more trouble sparring really good featherweights that I do good middle sor light heavies...

[We want Floyd]

Yea, man, it is MUCH tougher IMO to box a much smaller faster oppnent than it is to fight a bigger man or equal sized guy...even now I have more trouble sparring really good featherweights that I do good middle sor light heavies...

I can relate to that. I myself fought in the ams at 139lbs, the majority of guys in my gym were considered MW's , LHW and HW's so I mostly sparred with guys that weighed between 150-160.

But, there was that one time, that my coach took me to another gym, and had me spar with this kid, who for once was smaller than I was. At first, I was thinking cool, I get to play the role of the boxer. But, that lil f**ker was dippin' dodgin' moving left-right, the first few rounds felt like I had two left feet.

What the kid was doin' was nothin' new, but, the movement, speed and the target was much smaller.