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  • WLAD OWNS
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    #11
    Originally posted by crold1
    Difference being McBride and Williams were well past Mike's prime while Brewster and Sanders came IN Wlad's prime.
    Wlad hadn't hit his prime yet

    Wlad's prime started when he beat Peter

    He has been undefeated since that fight and he avenged the Brewster loss...dominated Brewster in a 6th round TKO win

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    • MANGLER
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      #12
      Wlad would get KO'd early.

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        #13
        Originally posted by mangler
        Wlad would get KO'd early.
        Everyone said Buster "the bum" Douglas would get KO'd early and look what happened....Buster the bum destroyed prime Tyson

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          #14
          Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
          Everyone said Buster "the bum" Douglas would get KO'd early and look what happened....Buster the bum destroyed prime Tyson
          We all know why, Tyson wasn't even properly trained. Not to mention all of the depression he was going through.

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          • crold1
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            #15
            Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
            Everyone said Buster "the bum" Douglas would get KO'd early and look what happened....Buster the bum destroyed prime Tyson
            And Tyson took a beating for ten like a man from an athlete who'd been around the sport his whole life and put together a once in a lifetime performance...even scored a knockdown...Wlad just fell out against Purrity and Brewster and was bombed by fat Sanders. If it came down to chin, even the most ardent Wlad fan can't pick against Tyson with a straight face.

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              #16
              Prime Vitali KO's Prime Tyson

              Wlad vs Prime Tyson could go either way
              Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 10-13-2008, 10:34 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by CottoIsBackBtch
                Tyson beats both Wlad and Vitali in his prime. No question.

                Tyson might beat Wlad, if he can get in past the jab without catching a right hand, and if he didn't get caught too many times by the jab, but Tyson didn't react well to being hit easily, even by a jab....tended to fall apart when things didn't go his way at all times.

                Vitali/Tyson...Vitali is just too mobile for Tyson to be able to do anything but look ******. Mike's biggest key to success was being able to get inside quick without getting caught and unload a quick, accurat and powerful combination, shake his opponent up and finish him off. Vitali anticipates this too well, and by the time Tyson was where he needed to be, Vitali would've already backed off, caught Mike with a hook or a couple of jabs, and be looking for a place to put a right hand. To beat Vitali, you either have to have some skill that I don't know about, or you've got to be at least his size or bigger, or at least have a comparable reach (a'la Lewis), AND you've got to have comparable speed, power and skill.

                Watch the Peter/Vitali fight again and see what he does when Sammy boy tries to get inside quick. He just hops back and catches him coming in. He would've done the same thing to Mike, only I think it would've ended even quicker because Mike ain't got the chin that Peter does. I tried to get this point across Saturday night, and I'll try again...Sam Peter isn't that bad. He may not be the most impressive heavy we have today, but he's no bum. He just looked bad because Vitali is very, very good at taking apart guys like him. Before the fight, there were maybe 3 or 4 of us that were saying "Peter is MADE for Vitali"...nobody listened, and even worse, even after we were proven right, they still aren't paying attention.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by crold1
                  And Tyson took a beating for ten like a man from an athlete who'd been around the sport his whole life and put together a once in a lifetime performance...even scored a knockdown...Wlad just fell out against Purrity and Brewster and was bombed by fat Sanders. If it came down to chin, even the most ardent Wlad fan can't pick against Tyson with a straight face.
                  No, but if it comes to technical advantages, even the most ardent Tyson fan couldn't pick him to beat Wlad. Tyson never saw anything like that size, power, handspeed, and technical perfection.

                  This is a 50/50 fight at best for Tyson. Probabaly 65/35 in Wlad's favor is the sharp eye's most honest guess. Tyson doesn't match up well here.

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                  • crold1
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                    Prime Vitali KO's Prime Tyson

                    I'd favour Prime Tyson over Wlad.....but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wlad knocked him out.
                    Ok, so we're not that far apart. LOL

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Stickman
                      Tyson might beat Wlad, if he can get in past the jab without catching a right hand, and if he didn't get caught too many times by the jab, but Tyson didn't react well to being hit easily, even by a jab....tended to fall apart when things didn't go his way at all times.

                      Vitali/Tyson...Vitali is just too mobile for Tyson to be able to do anything but look ******. Mike's biggest key to success was being able to get inside quick without getting caught and unload a quick, accurat and powerful combination, shake his opponent up and finish him off. Vitali anticipates this too well, and by the time Tyson was where he needed to be, Vitali would've already backed off, caught Mike with a hook or a couple of jabs, and be looking for a place to put a right hand. To beat Vitali, you either have to have some skill that I don't know about, or you've got to be at least his size or bigger, or at least have a comparable reach (a'la Lewis), AND you've got to have comparable speed, power and skill.

                      Watch the Peter/Vitali fight again and see what he does when Sammy boy tries to get inside quick. He just hops back and catches him coming in. He would've done the same thing to Mike, only I think it would've ended even quicker because Mike ain't got the chin that Peter does. I tried to get this point across Saturday night, and I'll try again...Sam Peter isn't that bad. He may not be the most impressive heavy we have today, but he's no bum. He just looked bad because Vitali is very, very good at taking apart guys like him. Before the fight, there were maybe 3 or 4 of us that were saying "Peter is MADE for Vitali"...nobody listened, and even worse, even after we were proven right, they still aren't paying attention.
                      Vitali beats a prime Tyson about 98 times out of 100. Anyone who says differently is buying old myths and not actually analyzing the fighters

                      Vitali is the worst matchup for Tyson of any boxer who ever lived

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