Do you give credit to Hopkins for beating Tito?

[Dan...]

When? What round? Never did that happen. B-Hop simply tied him up threw to the head/body and continued to box. He never imposed his size on him...B-Hop gave Tito more respect then he did Antwun Echols. B-Hop didn't even go for the K.O in the final round it was Tito who jumped on him. His mission was to outbox him and Tito played into his plan.

For periods in that fight I saw Trinidad backing up in a fashion that I had not seen him do before. While Hopkins boxed intelligently most of the fight there were times when he fought forward and imposed his size and strength advantage over Trinidad like no other Tito opponent had previously been able to do.

[Flawless 2]

For periods in that fight I saw Trinidad backing up in a fashion that I had not seen him do before. While Hopkins boxed intelligently most of the fight there were times when he fought forward and imposed his size and strength advantage over Trinidad like no other Tito opponent had previously been able to do.

We must have watched different fights, I swear Hopkins never used his size or strength advantage. He confused Tito with his jab and constant moving.

[Dan...]

We must have watched different fights, I swear Hopkins never used his size or strength advantage. He confused Tito with his jab and constant moving.

I'm not saying the size advantage was the determining factor, I just argued against that point with abadger on the previous page. Hopkins definately outboxed Trinidad and fought the perfect fight to beat Trinidad in the stylistic sense. For this he deserves a huge amount of credit. Having said all that to say that Hopkins clearly being the bigger man had no impact on the fight is not true.

[El Dominicano]

For periods in that fight I saw Trinidad backing up in a fashion that I had not seen him do before. While Hopkins boxed intelligently most of the fight there were times when he fought forward and imposed his size and strength advantage over Trinidad like no other Tito opponent had previously been able to do.

You might have to rewatch that fight.

[El Dominicano]

By the way, Pernell was also able to make Tito back up. Pernell landed some serious body punches and straight leftz to the head. By that he didn't impose his size. If for example, B-Hop would of gotten on Tito like Hatton does all his other opponents at 140...then you can say he imposed his size but that NEVER occured.

[Dan...]

You might have to rewatch that fight.

Maybe, I've watched it a few times though and I do think the size advantage played a role. Obviously BHop didn't monster him with his size and use it to dominate the fight but I think the fact that he had a size and strength advantage helped him to effectively implement his fight plan.

[mellow_mood]

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[Pullcounter]

By the way, Pernell was also able to make Tito back up. Pernell landed some serious body punches and straight leftz to the head. By that he didn't impose his size. If for example, B-Hop would of gotten on Tito like Hatton does all his other opponents at 140...then you can say he imposed his size but that NEVER occured.

yea hopkins just boxed the **** out of tito.

[Pugilistic™]

Hopkins never used his size advantage in the fight, he used lateral movement, His Jab and counter shots to break tito down. the last round i think was the only round where bhop came forward.

Maybe Hopkins size advantage helped him boxing tito's ears off but there is a clear difference between having the advantage and using it.

[Thread Stealer]

Of course.

It's easy to say afterwards "oh Trinidad was too small".

Trinidad was a 3-1 favorite, top 3 p4p fighter, and had just destroyed the consensus second best middleweight on the planet before this fight. I still think he could've done good work outside of Hopkins and beat most middleweights out there.

Hopkins completely schooled Trinidad. Beat him outside, inside, mid-range, etc..

One of the best performances of the decade.