Everyone makes a big deal about DLH but defeneds PWILL

**Flawless 2** · 10-01-2008, 01:22 PM

If Oscar went down to LW there would be no problem

**Flawless 2** · 10-01-2008, 01:23 PM

Don't use reach as an excuses CARLOS Q has beaten Williams.

**Flawless 2** · 10-01-2008, 01:25 PM

Oscar is making pacman move up 2 weight class while he is a MW now. While Williams opponents are WW (except Margarito who is jr MW) and they don't have to move up 2 weights to fight him. He feels the affect moving down, not Pacman moving up two

**ericsantos** · 10-01-2008, 01:27 PM

yeap I agree everyone is talking **** about DLH but they dont think that pw is taking advantage of smaller guys

**Clegg** · 10-01-2008, 01:28 PM

Cotto is a guy that couldn't make 140 withought serious weight-drain problems.
Pacquiao is a guy that has never fought as high as 140.

If they are the same height and reach, that goes to show how statistics like that can be misleading is judging a fighter's size.

**T-97** · 10-01-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Clegg

Cotto is a guy that couldn't make 140 withought serious weight-drain problems.
Pacquiao is a guy that has never fought as high as 140.

If they are the same height and reach, that goes to show how statistics like that can be misleading is judging a fighter's size.

Exactly. I have a friend who is the same height as me, maybe a little taller. Yet I outweigh him by a huge margin. Am I a fat ****? No.

It's he is thin and I am bigger built.

I love you Clegg

**Sweet Pea 50** · 10-01-2008, 01:37 PM

Manny started at 106. ODLH has been as high as 160. Do the ****ing math....

**LEFTYGUNZZ** · 10-01-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Clegg

Cotto is a guy that couldn't make 140 withought serious weight-drain problems.
Pacquiao is a guy that has never fought as high as 140.

If they are the same height and reach, that goes to show how statistics like that can be misleading is judging a fighter's size.

I think this is a bad statement and I will tell you why. PACMAN chose to move up to 147 because it is the most money he is going to get for a fight right now. If Williams can't get fights at 147 or can't get big fights at 147 then maybe he needs to stop crying and move up in weight too. I see the stats as being very real and a good judgement of how big a fighter realy is. If I am fighting a guy at 147 that is 6'2 and can hit me from the other side of the ring then how in the world can I get close enough to land a blow. Better yet I am constantly swinging upwards which takes alot of all my punches. 3 to 4 inches in height is a great advantage now we are talking 6 to 8 inches n height. That is ridiculous. 4 tio 6 inches is a big reach advantage now we are talking 6 to 12 inches that is also ridiculous. Come on you Williams nut hugger stop crying and get real......Lefty

**joseph5620** · 10-01-2008, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by luckylefty731

I don't understand there are tons of threads around here about P Will can make 147 then he is a WW. He got a belt why wont others fight him? Well the same people are bashing DLH for fighting PAC. Take a look at the stats

Williams 6'2 Reach:82
Berto 5' 8-9 Reach: 72
Clottey 5' 8 Reach: 70
Margarito 5' 11 Reach: 73
Cotto 5'7 Reach: 67

De La Hoya 5 '10-11 Reach: 73
Pacquiao 5'6-7 Reach: 67

If you look at the stats Williams has a 6 inch height advantage in most cases here. Also and more importantly he has a 9 - 15 inch reach adavantage. If you compare DLH to PAC the height advantage is 4 inches and the reach advantage is 7 inches. PAC is very comparable if not almost exactly the same height and reach as COtto. So why all the sh@t abotut FLH and not hearing any S3it about Williams? I don't understand why more people aren't saying the same about Williams.....Lefty

The only thing that matters in boxing is weight. When they start having "height-in's" then you'll have a case.

Everyone makes a big deal about DLH but defeneds PWILL