talyors resume is already 10 times better than joes

[Flawless 2]

Taylor fought Hopkins when he was in his mid-20s.

Calzaghe was A LOT better in his mid-20s than at 36 years old.

and?? That Hopkins would still give Calzaghe his hardest fight way more harder than Eubank. The Hopkins Calzaghe fought was way past his prime. Sorry a guy faking low blows shows how badly gone he is

[Silencers]

Doh. See, we Calzaghe fans will do anything to make Joe look better, including rewrite history

It's late here, you'll have to excuse me.

No problem.

[ragingvic]

True, but Reid beat Wharton as well.



Fair point, I haven't seen most of Ottke's fights, but do you really think Miranda has beaten the same level of opposition and achieved as much Robin Reid?

No Miranda has not done as much as Reid right now, but he is also ten years younger. I def believe that 10 yrs later Miranda will have achieved just as much. (which, granted, is not all that much). Either way I dont see these two being that much different, because neither could really beat a legit world champ. Its pretty hard to label one a noteworthy opponent and another not mentionable.

[Clegg]

Calzaghe best win is Hopkins and so is Taylor, but Taylor beat Hopkins 2 years ahead of him when he was A LOT better. TWICE

Taylor gets the nod

So when comparing resumes, you only take into account the best win each guy had, and don't consider anything else?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

and?? That Hopkins would still give Calzaghe his hardest fight way more harder than Eubank. The Hopkins Calzaghe fought was way past his prime. Sorry a guy faking low blows shows how badly gone he is

And.....if Calzaghe was in his mid 20s like Taylor fighting a 40 year old Hopkins, you dont think there would be a difference?

A guy faking low blows can also mean he's feeling the pace at which his opponent made him fight. Hopkins fought in a similarly ugly fashion against Taylor, Wright and Tarver but none of them were able to make him use his legs enough

[ragingvic]

I love how the likes of larryx, ragingvic and Flawless cry "who" at the mention of world champion boxers and then pretend to be actual fans of the sport.

I think your missing the convo between me and Clegg where we are actually disucssing fighters. Whenever I have said who it has not been that I dont know them it has been to state a nobody.

[kenso]

Calzaghe's wins:

Kessler
Hopkins
Eubank
Lacy
Jones Jr.


Taylor's wins:

Hopkins twice
Spinks
Ouma
Lacy


Calzaghe's resume >>>>> Taylor's resume

if you compare the two, taylor is much younger and went straight to fighting the most elite opposition he could get, i give the nod to taylor for not dodging, and im not saying joe was definitely dodging or not but... he went his entire career and just now he is deciding to make important fights happen. if joe retires without fighting pavlik (that is if he beats jones and pavlik beats hopkins), then joes legacy should and will be forever questioned. if he beats jones then pavlik, and maybe even one more great name, then i dont see any reason why people can question joes greatness.

[Flawless 2]

And.....if Calzaghe was in his mid 20s like Taylor fighting a 40 year old Hopkins, you dont think there would be a difference?

A guy faking low blows can also mean he's feeling the pace at which his oppennt made him fight. Hopkins fought in a similarly ugly fashion against Taylor, Wright and Tarver but none of them were able to make him use his legs enough

Taylor fought him 2 years before Calzaghe maybe, if the Hopkins that Calaghe fought was against Taylor he would have got stopped. If Eubank was younger would the fight with Calzaghe be the same

[Flawless 2]

So when comparing resumes, you only take into account the best win each guy had, and don't consider anything else?

Hopkins twice is better than 43 year olds and Kessler

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Taylor fought him 2 years before Calzaghe maybe, if the Hopkins that Calaghe fought was against Taylor he would have got stopped. If Eubank was younger would the fight with Calzaghe be the same

Hopkins has never been stopped. Or even close to getting stopped. Taylor couldnt even stop a couple of welterweights. Thats simple ridiculous logic but then again why am I expecting anything else from you?

I keep asking you. You keep avoiding the question. You say Taylor fought Hopkins "in his prime when he was a lot better" even though he was 40 years old.

My reply is that Taylor fought Hopkins in his mid-20s. Calzaghe was better in his mid-20s, so wouldnt that make a difference?