Paul Williams: "Now You See Why Pavlik Pulled Out"

[rj_ct]

Williams needs to gain some weight and build a name for himself @ 160 before calling anybody out, esspecially Kelly Pavlik.

i know what you're saying, but how many times in the history of boxing has a champion from 1 weight division moved up to challenge the champion from another? countless. if boxing was actually based on rankings you'd be right. but boxing is based on money. it pisses me off too, dude.

however, paul wililams fighting kelly pavlik is A LOT more credible than some of the circus acts we've seen (or will see) in recent years. if this fight were to get made today, i'd have no problem with it.

[KESSLER]

i know what you're saying, but how many times in the history of boxing has a champion from 1 weight division moved up to challenge the champion from another? countless. if boxing was actually based on rankings you'd be right. but boxing is based on money. it pisses me off too, dude.

however, paul wililams fighting kelly pavlik is A LOT more credible than some of the circus acts we've seen (or will see) in recent years. if this fight were to get made today, i'd have no problem with it.

I wouldn't have a problem with the fight if Williams had a middleweight resume. I don't like the fact that he is calling Pavlik out, he don't even know if he could hang with the top MWs. If Taylor was still @ 160, he would easily beat Williams, I think Abraham beats him aswell.. He might have a higher workrate than Abraham, but I'm sure it would be a Abraham victory in the end. I think Miranda COULD knock him out. But, we'll see. There will come a time when he can't make 147 anymore without dying.

[egreezy]

im assuming you guys did not know about kolle knocking down pavlik in sparring? when i heard about it i was impressed... so he cant be a bum haha

[nbk187]

Taylor was a P4P fighter. And I think he still could be, he's a very talented guy.

And what's there to learn about Andy Kolle? You want me to study him and watch his career like he was some ****ing Muhammad Ali of the middleweights?. Please, Andy Kolle.

Study him and watch his career?? All you spit are opinions, and your opinions are just based on word of mouth, the guy was 17-1 never hurt or been down. You argued that, but you have never even watched another fight of his. Normally when I debate something, I try to learn the facts of both sides, to avoid embarrassing myself like you just did.

Williams called out Pavlik, they will probably end up fighting. And when Williams wins, which I think he has a 65% chance of doing, I want to see you come on here admit you were wrong. By the way, "nobody at BS is afraid of Williams" or whatever. Are you talking about the posters?? Haha what the **** you talkin about fool??

[nbk187]

im assuming you guys did not know about kolle knocking down pavlik in sparring? when i heard about it i was impressed... so he cant be a bum haha

Hahaha I heard that **** too. These fools don't know anything on the subject, they act like they are a somebody and what they say goes, despite the fact they aren't educated on what they are talking about. Kessler should be ashamed of himself. This guy is talking about overrated, his name is ****in Kessler. We'll see who has more of a career when it's all said and done, Williams or Kessler. Hahaha.

[joseph5620]

Listen to these idiots. You and Wlad Owns are the biggest fools on here. That "bum" you're dissin, had never been down, hurt, or stopped. You saw what Andre Ward did vs him, and then compare that to Williams moving up two weight classes. He took a guy that has been flash knocked down once, because of balance, and basically put him on ice in 2 minutes. Kolle was tough, durable, and before the fight a lot of people were saying "Kolle is no joke I won't be surprised if he beats overrated Williams." Now look.

You two are haters, and it's pathetic. Pavlik and his camp pulled out of the fight, not the other way around, Williams has the right to talk **** because he wants the fight. You're two punks on a keyboard who are nobodies.

Kessler and Wlad owns are just two brainless bigots who's opinions are not worth ****. They base their opinions on race and nothing else. Yeah I still remember you calling Michelle ***** a gorilla and giving me red K for saying good things about Roy Jones, yet you swing on Mayorga's nuts. I would not pick Williams to beat Pavlik at this point because he's still unproven at that weight. But it's not as one sided a fight as some people think. If Williams has the skill to beat Margarito(one of the best in the world) it's not inconceivable that he can become a major threat to Pavlik at some point when he moves up to 160.

[KESSLER]

Study him and watch his career?? All you spit are opinions, and your opinions are just based on word of mouth, the guy was 17-1 never hurt or been down. You argued that, but you have never even watched another fight of his. Normally when I debate something, I try to learn the facts of both sides, to avoid embarrassing myself like you just did.

Williams called out Pavlik, they will probably end up fighting. And when Williams wins, which I think he has a 65% chance of doing, I want to see you come on here admit you were wrong. By the way, "nobody at BS is afraid of Williams" or whatever. Are you talking about the posters?? Haha what the **** you talkin about fool??

When they fight, and Pavliks wins easily. I am gonna be looking for you, and I will laugh at you.

[rogdogx]

I'll admit all this jumping around weight 2 weight seems exciting but we arent even sure if he's ready 4 guys like santos or forrest at 154 yet. its not like he can just overwhelm those guys wit his power. knockin out kolle so easily just means he picked a weaker opponent than was originally thought. he would get completely massacred by abraham & pav at this point in his young career. he could maybe capture felix sturms paper title but even that aint 4 sure

[joseph5620]

When they fight, and Pavliks wins easily. I am gonna be looking for you, and I will laugh at you.

Were you laughing when Mayorga got KTFO?

[Pullcounter]

WBO welterweight champion Paul Williams surprised a lot of people when he recently made the leap from 147 to 160 and knocked out middleweight contender Andy Kolle in one-round. Williams took the fight to show the fans, and other potential opponents, that he wants to fight all of the big names from 147 to 160 - and even 168. [details]

personally i think williams is biting off more than he can chew, but I'd still like to see him try and beat pavlik.