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Originally Posted by The Surgeon
Ive seen 3 of Clotteys fights and he is Quality, hard chin to crack but he's no Magarito, 1st class Ike Qaurtey style defence, decent power but Miguel has more, and id give Cotto the edge in speed too.
On the whole he is a top class fighter good at everything but lacks that spark, he's a bit basic in there, Cotto's variety and imagination will make the difference i think.
YES!!! People overlook Cotto's problem-solving ability in the ring. It's evident throughout his career.
(not to say Clottey has none, again, I haven't seen enough of him yet to make any judgements)
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Originally Posted by The Surgeon
U should check out the Clottey vs Tony fight, not great but it shows Margs limitations. Good learning fight to watch
Yea, I'm gonna hit the archives and watch Clotteys whole career.
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Originally Posted by PHX PLAYMAKER
IVE SEEN ABOUT 6 OF CLOTTEYS FIGHTS AND TO KEEP IT PLAIN N SIMPLE IN MY OPINION HES JUST TOO STRONG FOR COTTO, HAS BETTER STAMINA & A WAY TOUGHER CHIN. I THINK HE WOULD BE PRESSURING COTTO ALL NIGHT AND I DONT THINK COTTO DOES WELL WHEN HES GETTING PRESSURED. I SEE THIS FIGHT BEING SIMILAR TO THE COTTO-RITO FIGHT BUT CLOTTEY HAS WAY BETTER DEFENSE & BOXING SKILLS THAN RITO SO HE WOULD GET HIT LESS THAN RITO DID.
WHOA, WHOA!!!! Cotto not doing well under pressure!?!?!?! Sound like you either don't know boxing OR you haven't watched enough of Cotto!
You draw that conclusion because of this last performance!?!? If you watch Cotto's last couple fights you might conclude that he comes forward alot, but watch his whole career and you'll see he's ALWAYS walked backwards and counters to win his fights!!!! ALOT - ALOT of fighters PRESSURED him on the start of his matches, and he walks backwards until he breaks them down with his power hooks. Then when they stop pressuring, he moves in for the finish.
The problem this past time is that, UNLIKE all of his other opposition, MARG NEVER backed down, he kept walking through Miguel's bombs. WHO ELSE, besides Marg, can take those kinds of hits and STILL pressure Miguel with DYNAMITE hits?!?!?!
I'm not doubting Clottey, cause I've seen his last fight - which he looked great btw, clips of previous performances, and I see his excellent record.
But Marg was armed with a steel chin, body defense, and bomb hits. My question is: DOES CLOTTEY HAVE THESE THREE?
Steel chin to the point where he's not affected by Cotto's blows? Body defense
to the point Cotto barely lands ANYTHING - AT ALL downstairs with his signature left hook that he ko's everyone with?
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say yes for a sec. His record STILL shows 20 out of 35 knockouts. That's 4 ko's in the last 14 fights. I MAY BE WRONG, but that doesn't sound like a KNOCK OUT ARTIST carrying bomb hits.
By all means, I don't mean talk negative about a champ like Clottey, but my point is there's gonna be very few with the formula that beat Cotto - (steel chin for constant pressure+superb body defense+bomb hits).
And Even IF his opposition has these 3, Cotto's career history shows he's likely to adapt.
You Say Clottey has better Strength, Stamina, and a better chin. I wouldn't doubt the chin, and maybe you're even right about the other two as well.
But it's not "strength", "better stamina", or "a better chin" that's gonna stop Cotto SO easily. Cause Cotto's beat lots of people with better chins, better stamina, and more strength in his past.
You talk as if you're 100% sure Clottey will dominate Cotto, but for the sake of your own perspective, don't be so easily swept away by the negative momentum fad against Cotto that's happening while he's down.
I havent seen much of MCs old fights but i also know he didnt fight elite welterweights back then, so if he did do great under pressure then it mustve been vs average opponets, not natural welterweights who are ranked amongst the top welters in the world. Dont get me wrong I know he has super skills but he showed in his last fight that he can crack under pressure when facing a top natural welterweight who doesnt even have devastating 1 punch knockout power. I just dont think he has what it takes to beat the top welters right now, which are Rito, Pwill, and Clottey.Comment
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Cotto vs. Berto would make a fight of the year candidate. Clottey would use his Winky like guard against Cotto. Either fight would be good for each other. Win or lose. Thats all the experience they'll ever need from out of all 3.Last edited by RisAri0; 09-27-2008, 01:06 AM.Comment
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im a Cotto fan but i dont think he can beat Clottey, especially after Clottey spanks margo. Cotto should try & take advantage on Berto being Berto hasnt fought a top notch fighter.Comment
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Berto has good speed and decent power. he gets hit alot and often. Cotto has much more power then anyone he has ever fought. That being said Berto could give Cotto some trouble but I think Cotto has more experience and that thunderous hook to the body will slow Berto down enough for him to catch him in the middle to late rounds.....LeftyComment
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Cotto needs to stay away from Clottey the last thing he needs to be doing is jumping back into the ring with another boiled down 154lbs fighterComment
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