Why do people think Wladimir is gonna beat Haye?

[kayjay]

Haye did not "unify CW." He beat a faded champ then defended against a useless Welshman.

[kayjay]

Haye's power by the way is very good at Cruiser, probably not among the ten best at HW.

And that's just power. He's not among the fifteen best fighters overall in the HW division, and it's unlikely he ever will be.

[The Hammer]

Haye did not "unify CW." He beat a faded champ then defended against a useless Welshman.

That's correct. He didn't face the best boxer in the division, Steve Cunningham, nor the second best, the iron-chinned Firat Arslan.

He would also lose to Alexander Alexeev, who never failed to go the distance in his always close amateur fights with Solis. Haye, however, was stopped by Solis.

[WLAD OWNS]

That's correct. He didn't face the best boxer in the division, Steve Cunningham, nor the second best, the iron-chinned Firat Arslan.

He would also lose to Alexander Alexeev, who never failed to go the distance in his always close amateur fights with Solis. Haye, however, was stopped by Solis.

Adamek is another top cruiserweight Haye didn't fight...I'd put my money on the tough as nails Adamek to KO Haye if they ever fought at cruiserweight.

Cunningham, Alexeev, Adamek, Arslan >>> Mediocre Macca + old, shot Mormeck.

[Dynamite Kid]

you Haye haters are unbelievable

listening to you ,you would think Haye has never won a proffesional fight in his life let alone a world title

[beez721]

I can't figure it out, haye has the reach advantage, he has the power advantage cause he is shorter then wlad. Haye is more elusive and has great headmovement unlike wladimir who moves like a robot. Haye has a suspected chin but so does Wlad. All Wlad really can do is 1-2 and clinch, Haye is gonna figure Wlad out and KO him when Wlad tries to get into a clinch.

lol,,******est post Ive read in a long time. haye does absolutely not have the strength or power advantage and his chin is worst than wlads. hes been hurt by cruiserweights for christ sakes. wlads defense is also better. anyone with half a brain can see wlad has the advantages. seems like 90% of the fools that favor haye are all from england,,lol. go figure

[beez721]

HW division is full of bums, if he can unify the cruiserweight division he wont have problems at HW

your ignorance just grows with each post. the cruiserweight division is even worst than the heavyweights. the only difference is the cruisers have been putting on better fights. macca and mormeck wouldnt have been champs in any other era. hell,,,mormeck was 36 and past it while mac is nothing more than a b fighter

[beez721]

People said the same thing about wladimir, nobody has won a HW title after being stopped by a part time golfer. Yet he proved them wrong

that part time golfer had 18 first rounds ko's fool and was in great shape for one of the few times in his career. he'd have taken hayes head off his shoulderss had it been haye instead of wlad in there that night

[dmaclv]

Anyone think Wlad might consider retiring after this year? Just a thought, I've seen champs as high as he is in the division retire and now he has this big fight with Haye over the horizon. Wlad's at the top of the division, he ain't undisputed champ but he's proven he can beat anyone IBF/WBO throws at him. He might pull a Rid**** Bowe and fight the safe route to retirement dodging Lennox like he did way back when. My point is this fight with Haye might never happen, Haye could get KO'd in his 2nd fight and if that happened this division would be at a loss. Our only contender down for the count.

[hinduw]

Haye's power by the way is very good at Cruiser, probably not among the ten best at HW.

And that's just power. He's not among the fifteen best fighters overall in the HW division, and it's unlikely he ever will be.

if his power is good at cruiser it will be better at heavyweight, Haye is a natural heavyweight he will fight more confortobal at heavy