Why is Joe Calzaghes Reply to Pavlik the same? he always brings up Kessler.

[TheGreatA]

He beat a old Hopkins. Who was still excellent enough to school Calslappy in the ways of the sport before he got a very questionable decision agin him.



Watch Bernard's work in that fight. You're watching a master of the game.

Watch Joe's work in the same fight. You're watching a overhyped amateur.



The way in which Calslappy 'won' was nothing to celebrate. The moral victory was Bernard's.

It wasn't a victory for either, both looked horrible in that fight. Hopkins doesn't have a lot left and Joe can't punch.

Hopkins did know who Kessler was, I remember him talking about Kessler before the Andrade fight. Good way to counter Joe's talk about Kessler though.

[Mozza]

I like Kessler, I think a fight between him and Kessler would be excellent.

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

It wasn't a victory for either, both looked horrible in that fight. Hopkins doesn't have a lot left and Joe can't punch.

Hopkins did know who Kessler was, I remember him talking about Kessler before the Andrade fight. Good way to counter Joe's talk about Kessler though.

I guess it vary from perspective to perspective. To me Bernard do some of the prettiest ugly work I ever seened if you appreciate what I mean by that.


He was fascinating to watch in that fight and was much more effective at his gameplan than Joe was at his.
A old man made Joe look like trash swatting at air.


His lack of youth just showed down the stretch. And even then you could still make a case that he got a decision stole from him.

[Mozza]

He beat a old Hopkins. Who was still excellent enough to school Calslappy in the ways of the sport before he got a very questionable decision agin him.



Watch Bernard's work in that fight. You're watching a master of the game.

Watch Joe's work in the same fight. You're watching a overhyped amateur.



The way in which Calslappy 'won' was nothing to celebrate. The moral victory was Bernard's.

Hopkins tried every trick in the book to win that fight and would have been stopped if it wasn't for the outrageous time wasting after the phantom low-blow. If it was a moral battle then Hopkins was well and truly beaten.

[abadger]

I guess it vary from perspective to perspective. To me Bernard do some of the prettiest ugly work I ever seened if you appreciate what I mean by that.


He was fascinating to watch in that fight and was much more effective at his gameplan than Joe was at his.
A old man made Joe look like trash swatting at air.


His lack of youth just showed down the stretch. And even then you could still make a case that he got a decision stole from him.

Oh, I don't know. If Calzaghe's plan was to keep Bernard under constant pressure and throw and land more punches than Bernard to ensure he got a decision, and Bernards was to reduce Calzaghe's output by clinching him and make him reluctant to throw by hitting him with hard counters and box to a decision that way, I'd say Calzaghe's gameplan was quite the more effective. Bernard had some success, but still, you could make a case for Calzaghe winning that fight 9 rounds to 3, or 4 with the KD.

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

Hopkins tried every trick in the book to win that fight and would have been stopped if it wasn't for the outrageous time wasting after the phantom low-blow. If it was a moral battle then Hopkins was well and truly beaten.

You are dreaming.

To stop a fighter you have to be able to land enough effective shots to overwhelm him and force a stoppage. That was never happening at any stage in the fight. You can count the number of effective, clean shots Sloppy Joe landed on the fingers of 1 hand.

And there was no indication that it was anywhere near close to happening at the time of the low blow.




Hop schooled Joe. Made him look like a clown. And Joe just enforced that impression more with the ass**** move which revealed his frustration.

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

Mozza is dreaming about the softest stoppage in boxing since Sloppy Joe slapped Manfredo Jr. to death.


Hopkins would have never gone out like Manfredo Jr.


And even if Hopkins did just cover up and let Joe slap at him --- Mandalay Bay isn't the UK and Hopkins isn't Manfredo Jr.
The fight wouldn't have been stopped for non-damaging bull**** like that.

[Mozza]

You are dreaming.

To stop a fighter you have to be able to land enough effective shots to overwhelm him and force a stoppage. That was never happening at any stage in the fight. You can count the number of effective, clean shots Sloppy Joe landed on the fingers of 1 hand.

And there was no indication that it was anywhere near close to happening at the time of the low blow.




Hop schooled Joe. Made him look like a clown. And Joe just enforced that impression more with the ass**** move which revealed his frustration.

You obviously don't believe a word of what you have written otherwise you wouldn't feel the need for the tedious highlighting of random words.

If you can count the number of meaningful shots Calzaghe landed on one hand then you can count the number Hopkins landed on one finger. I don't know when inactivity, laziness and rule-bending became fundamentals of good boxing because these were the only areas in which Hopkins bettered Joe.

[Mozza]

Mozza is dreaming about the softest stoppage in boxing since Sloppy Joe slapped Manfredo Jr. to death.


Hopkins would have never gone out like Manfredo Jr.


And even if Hopkins did just cover up and let Joe slap at him --- Mandalay Bay isn't the UK and Hopkins isn't Manfredo Jr.
The fight wouldn't have been stopped for non-damaging bull**** like that.

Why did Hopkins waste so much time then?

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

Oh, I don't know. If Calzaghe's plan was to keep Bernard under constant pressure and throw and land more punches than Bernard to ensure he got a decision, and Bernards was to reduce Calzaghe's output by clinching him and make him reluctant to throw by hitting him with hard counters and box to a decision that way, I'd say Calzaghe's gameplan was quite the more effective. Bernard had some success, but still, you could make a case for Calzaghe winning that fight 9 rounds to 3, or 4 with the KD.

Sloppy Joe's plan was to win the fight definitively, clearly and prove that he would have been a match for a prime Hopkins, instead of the old version he shared a ring with who have to fight with a lot of reserve and smarts to compete at all at this age.

He failed.

Landed punches? You mean cuffs and grazes?


Coo. Sure. Sloppy Joe did real well landing that ****. You win.





9 rounds to 3 is bull****. I won't even talk to you about this if you pulling that ****. Joke scoring.