Calzaghe: "Pavlik is Full of Bull****, Overhyped Fighter"

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Why do you keep bringing up Lacy? That's how many posts in a row now? God, you're just like you're idol - bringing him up for no good reason.

Hopkins wasn't in his 10th fight.

Floyd wasn't 40...and?

NEXT.

I swear, these losers all need a hug...

Because Lacy was another Yank groomed for greatness and talked up all over the place until you know when. Then suddenly you knew all along that he was ****.

Same with Taylor. Maybe people thought Hopkins would craftily pull out a victory but I dont think anyone expected a 40 year old Hopkins to be dancing around beating up the young Golden Boy all over the ring in the later rounds.

Either way you wanna look at it, Taylor has never lived up to the hype and is not that much better than the best names on Kessler's record. He was an accident waiting to happen.

[Kris Silver]

To Mark Vester, the guy whom always submits journalistic pieces like this, I ask you;

Where does Calzaghe actually say Pavlik is full of bull ****, overhyped fighter"?

I'm pretty sure he doesn't, and that's on of the most picked and chosen words into a new sentence I've ever seen on boxing scene.

[P4P Opinion]

The Facts:

* Calzaghe wanted a tune-up fight for HBO after he beat Lacy, he chose Pavlik to suit the American audience, but Pavlik declined because he wasn't ready for such a step-up and he was on his way to a middleweight title shot anyway.

* Calzaghe was looking for a fight with Taylor before Pavlik beat him, but Taylor was asking for an extremely unrealistic amount of money. Nevertheless, Calzaghe wanted to fight Pavlik as he beat Taylor. Pavlik was contractually obliged to fight Taylor again in a rematch and decided that he should stick to this rather than negotiate out of it to face Calzaghe.

* Calzaghe openly stated after the Hopkins victory that he wanted to face Roy Jones and he pursued this to conclusion. Pavlik made neutral comments saying he would fight Calzaghe, but not being pinned down to anything until it was clear Calzaghe was in deep negotiations with Roy Jones in an attempt either to try and force a fight or as a bluff for publicity - I don't know which.

My take on this:

Calzaghe has been chasing a fight with Roy Jones for the majority of his career and wasn't about to give up the opportunity, which came with a bigger payday, to fight someone he considered to have turned him down two times. Pavlik had perfectly good reasons for turning Calzaghe down both times (too green after the Lacy fight and contracted to fight Taylor again after their first fight), but Calzaghe has been the victim of a lack of opportunities throughout his career, so I can understand why he resents the idea of a new champion taking a fight with an 11 year champion whenever he pleases. At the end of the day though, I think it's obvious that this is all hype towards a fight in 2009 between the pair, provided they both win, so it doesn't really matter. Calzaghe wasn't drawn on whether the Jones fight was definately his last, which tells me that he has Pavlik in mind.

[IMDAZED]

Because Lacy was another Yank groomed for greatness and talked up all over the place until you know when. Then suddenly you knew all along that he was ****.

You know how dumb you sound? Imagine if every "Yank" kept bringing up failed UK fighters? Oh wait...

Same with Taylor. Maybe people thought Hopkins would craftily pull out a victory but I dont think anyone expected a 40 year old Hopkins to be dancing around beating up the young Golden Boy all over the ring in the later rounds.

Actually, most thought Hopkins was gonna beat the **** out of him...maybe that's why Bernard was the favorite? Gotta love your knowledge or, umm, lack thereof.

Either way you wanna look at it, Taylor has never lived up to the hype and is not that much better than the best names on Kessler's record. He was an accident waiting to happen.

So Taylor isn't that good but...has a better resume than Kessler. Got it!

LMAO

[bsrizpac]

Because Lacy was another Yank groomed for greatness and talked up all over the place until you know when. Then suddenly you knew all along that he was ****.

Same with Taylor. Maybe people thought Hopkins would craftily pull out a victory but I dont think anyone expected a 40 year old Hopkins to be dancing around beating up the young Golden Boy all over the ring in the later rounds.

Either way you wanna look at it, Taylor has never lived up to the hype and is not that much better than the best names on Kessler's record. He was an accident waiting to happen.

Wow. Do you even realize how ****ing pathetic you sound? You're butthurt cause some American fans didn't recognize Calzaghe as a good fighter? Boo hoo. Get over it you hateful little ****.

Lacy was ****. Period. You can talk all you want about what people SAID before that fight, but it doesn't change the fact that he is and was ****. You have no clue how to debate intelligently do you? It's unbelievable. It's like talking to a completely clueless moron.

Just because people SAID Lacy was awesome, does not make him awesome. He sucks. He did suck. And still you have not named a good win for Kessler. Who are these fantasy "best names"? Are you ******ed or something?

So sorry, but you lose. Again.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You know how dumb you sound? Imagine if every "Yank" kept bringing up failed UK fighters? Oh wait...



Actually, most thought Hopkins was gonna beat the **** out of him...maybe that's why Bernard was the favorite? Gotta love your knowledge or, umm, lack thereof.



So Taylor isn't that good but...has a better resume than Kessler. Got it!

LMAO

Im just bringing up American Revisionist History. You're the one claiming to speak for the general consensus. The general consensus in the states also claimed Lacy would destroy Joe...........then denied it afterwards.

There you go again. Beat the **** out of him? Yeah cos Hopkins was regulary doing that at the time. He didnt even wanna get close to Howard Eastman but hes gonna beat the **** out of a young star groomed for greatness. Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

Kessler is a better boxer than Taylor. Taylor has bigger names on his resume. Kessler has the best name on either resume. Neither have beaten any big names in my opinion.

[bsrizpac]

Im just bringing up American Revisionist History. You're the one claiming to speak for the general consensus. The general consensus in the states also claimed Lacy would destroy Joe...........then denied it afterwards.

There you go again. Beat the **** out of him? Yeah cos Hopkins was regulary doing that at the time. He didnt even wanna get close to Howard Eastman but hes gonna beat the **** out of a young star groomed for greatness. Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

Kessler is a better boxer than Taylor. Taylor has bigger names on his resume. Kessler has the best name on either resume. Neither have beaten any big names in my opinion.

The mind of a ****** at work ladies and gents.
Holy **** you are ******ed. Hopkins was the consensus to kick Taylors ass. The entire boxing community was talking bout the fight being "too early" for a "young star" and that Hopkins would "expose him" and that "Taylor has the tools to beat him but not now, we expected this fight to go down later" and giving props to Taylor for having the guts to face Hopkins.

And I Guess those Hopkins losses happened in the Phantom Zone. And really you're more obvious than a Thai hooker- you only say Kessler is a better boxer because it always you to impale your mouth further on Joe's balls.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Wow. Do you even realize how ****ing pathetic you sound? You're butthurt cause some American fans didn't recognize Calzaghe as a good fighter? Boo hoo. Get over it you hateful little ****.

Lacy was ****. Period. You can talk all you want about what people SAID before that fight, but it doesn't change the fact that he is and was ****. You have no clue how to debate intelligently do you? It's unbelievable. It's like talking to a completely clueless moron.

Just because people SAID Lacy was awesome, does not make him awesome. He sucks. He did suck. And still you have not named a good win for Kessler. Who are these fantasy "best names"? Are you ******ed or something?

So sorry, but you lose. Again.

Well its unsurprising that you'd say that considering you picked Lacy to KO Joe. Course he's **** now..........so Pavlik would be if Joe fought him. Who's next? Dawson?

Its a shame Roy didnt fight Joe a few years ago. Maybe he wouldve been **** too.

[IMDAZED]

How's the weather?

Jeff Lacy

What's on TV Tonight?

Jeff Lacy

Who do I love?

Jeff Lacy

I'm through with this clown and his unrequited love, errr hate, of Yanks. Can't get them out of his mouth, can you? Let your girl do that for you - unless you find Lacy THAT attractive.

Later.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The mind of a ****** at work ladies and gents.
Holy **** you are ******ed. Hopkins was the consensus to kick Taylors ass. The entire boxing community was talking bout the fight being "too early" for a "young star" and that Hopkins would "expose him" and that "Taylor has the tools to beat him but not now, we expected this fight to go down later" and giving props to Taylor for having the guts to face Hopkins.

And I Guess those Hopkins losses happened in the Phantom Zone. And really you're more obvious than a Thai hooker- you only say Kessler is a better boxer because it always you to impale your mouth further on Joe's balls.

I thought we werent caring about what people SAID.

You switch more than a bisexual.

Kessler is a better boxer because i can see it with my own two eyes.