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  • -irishthunder-
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    #41
    Micky Ward-Shea Neary

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    • Zocalo
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      #42
      Originally posted by £for£ Champ
      hearns duran

      big ko simple as! no talk of duran having a weak chin cos he could take a punch, hearns was just too powerful
      He had to donate blood to make weight...lol.
      Last edited by Zocalo; 09-17-2008, 11:55 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Macho Madness
        whats an excuse for the hearns-hagler fight??
        Tommy claimed to have no legs going into that one, and that's why you saw that fight at an amazing pace. He claimed the goal was to put Hagler away as soon as possible given his dilemma.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          williams/quintana II.
          I second that. I find no excuse acceptable here, especially with Paul's size meaning **** in the first fight. Quintana declared he trained harder for this one and acknowledged Williams looking past him in the first fight.

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            #45
            Originally posted by abosworth
            I disagree. I watched that fight for the first time recently and I thought Nunn was winning most of the rounds but Toney was breaking him down and he was landing more and more as the fight went on. The reason he caught him with the "lucky punch" is because he was breaking him down and tiring him out and Nunn got sloppy. It wasn't like Toney was getting his ass kicked the whole fight, he was just not doing quite enough to win the rounds.

            Nunn could have beat Toney if he didn't try to out fight him on the inside as much. If he had kept him at the end of his jab it would have been an easy fight for him. Don't get me wrong, he had his moments on the inside but I just feel that when the fight stayed inside, Toney was getting the better of him.

            I also think Toney would have defeated him again in a rematch. I don't think Nunn ever got back to the way he was after that fight.
            The Nunn fanboy: How wrong you are. That was a lucky shot. Toney knew it and ducked him afterwards.

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              #46
              Originally posted by BatTheMan
              The Nunn fanboy: How wrong you are. That was a lucky shot. Toney knew it and ducked him afterwards.
              Are playing devil's advocate? I am not a Nunn fanboy. I see what you are saying, an excuse could be made. I guess the point of the thread escaped my grasp.

              With that said, an excuse can always be made for a fighter losing. You can always say "it was just a lucky punch" but that doesn't mean it's right.

              Toney didn't duck Nunn for a second fight. Nunn moved up to SMW immediately after the fight while Toney stayed at MW until 92 and fought 5 times before moving up to SMW. I guess you could argue that Toney ducked him at SMW to fight Roy Jones Jr.

              Moving on...



              How about when Lamon Brewster defeated Wladimir Klitschko in their first fight. Brewster took a beating and just came back and kicked Wlad's ass. Can anyone think of an excuse for that one? Sure... He had a ****ty trainer and he didn't have good stamina.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #47
                Originally posted by abosworth
                Moving on...



                How about when Lamon Brewster defeated Wladimir Klitschko in their first fight. Brewster took a beating and just came back and kicked Wlad's ass. Can anyone think of an excuse for that one? Sure... He had a ****ty trainer and he didn't have good stamina.
                Wladimir was poisoned.

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                  #48
                  Michael Carbajal vs. Humberto Gonzalez. Any excuses for that one?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by abosworth
                    How about when Lamon Brewster defeated Wladimir Klitschko in their first fight. Brewster took a beating and just came back and kicked Wlad's ass. Can anyone think of an excuse for that one? Sure... He had a ****ty trainer and he didn't have good stamina.
                    Originally posted by TheManchine
                    Wladimir was poisoned.
                    What Manchine said. There has been several rumours of Wlad being given foul water or something.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by abosworth
                      Michael Carbajal vs. Humberto Gonzalez. Any excuses for that one?
                      I take the 5th on that one. I havent seen the fight, or at least I dont remember.

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