Cotto Margarito rematch in 2009?

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  • baya
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    #11
    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
    Please explaine to me what Cotto did that was so wrong? I keep hearing this from you guys and I don't see it.

    If you want to talk about not throwing to the body, then you don't understand boxing.

    Cotto can't trade body shots with Marg, it just can't happen. In order for you to throw to the body, you have to be in close with your opponent, do you really think that would be smart for Cotto?

    He already was catching upercuts all day, which happens to be Marg's best punch and you want him to stand there even longer taking more punishment?

    There's nothing Cotto can do to beat Margarito other than turn into Floyd Mayweather Jr. and that's not happening.

    Margarito gets beat by out boxing him for 12 rounds and not getting hit or walked down by him. There are very few if any fighters that can do that. Floyd is the only one that comes to mind. If you stand and trade with him, you will get KO'd.

    I think Cotto gets beat even worse in the rematch because Cotto is a prideful dude and he will stand and try and trade more with Marg causing the fight to end even earlier than the first.
    nah bro. i saw things that he did wrong. he couldn't move that much to perfection in the first fight because he expended too much energy. margarito is too big for most anyone in the WW division - so you beat him how you said, by pot shotting him and turning him.

    cotto can do this, he was very tired in the lovemore n'dou fight and continued to do this with the bigger man at the time. cotto's been elusive enough in past fights and he needs to do so again with margarito.

    all cotto has to do is side step him - continue to show him angles and most importantly, CLINCH.

    ud or sd for cotto.

    cotto's the animal here, he wants the rematch. same things were said before many times, duran / leonard - schmeling / louis - and cotto will be part of that class. he has the elusiveness and workrate to beat margarito - most definitely.

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    • Silencers
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      #12
      I'm sticking with my pick for the first fight, Cotto by decision, unless the loss has affected him a lot.

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      • Mayfeather
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        #13
        Margarito would win this quite easily IMO

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        • luchador
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          #14
          man i hope the bookies are like u guys id love to win more cash at the expense of the cotto hype

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          • FUC_U_PAYME
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            #15
            Cotto by decision

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            • Tha_Greatest
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              #16
              Originally posted by Owlzfan84
              Cotto fought a good fight, but he did make mistakes, and he's good and versatile enough to correct them.

              The thing about Margarito, its what you see is what you get. He's not going to change anything. I can see Cotto winning the rematch by Close UD.
              You are great in boxing knowledge,LOL NYAHAHAHA, Cotto fought the perfect fight and still lost, thats why you think Cotto will win, LOL, you are a genius,LOL, NYAHAHAHA, Miguel Cotex is your pre****shin, good one, LOL

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              • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                #17
                Originally posted by baya
                nah bro. i saw things that he did wrong. he couldn't move that much to perfection in the first fight because he expended too much energy. margarito is too big for most anyone in the WW division - so you beat him how you said, by pot shotting him and turning him.

                cotto can do this, he was very tired in the lovemore n'dou fight and continued to do this with the bigger man at the time. cotto's been elusive enough in past fights and he needs to do so again with margarito.

                all cotto has to do is side step him - continue to show him angles and most importantly, CLINCH.

                ud or sd for cotto.

                cotto's the animal here, he wants the rematch. same things were said before many times, duran / leonard - schmeling / louis - and cotto will be part of that class. he has the elusiveness and workrate to beat margarito - most definitely.

                He didn't slip and move in the first fight? He didn't give him angles in the first fight?

                He fought a great fight, he was boxing circles around Marg for 6 rounds out of the first 8. He was landing clean BOMBS on Marg and.....nothing.

                Margarito is too big and too strong for Cotto, always will be.

                If anything, there are many things that Marg can do to improve his performance. For example, he never used his length to an advantage over Cotto until late in the fight. SPACING is probably the most underrated thing talked about in the gym and I preach it to my fighters all the time.

                Spacing gives you accuracy. When you are too close or too far away, you either smother your punches or miss short of the target. Marg was in too close, allowing Cotto to counter the left uppercut with his own left hook which was landing flush on Marg's face all night long.

                He adjusted in the last 2 rounds and stood a little farther way when throwing his punches and Cotto missed by just and inch but enough where he couldn't counter Marg even though he was much faster.

                Another thing is, Marg never used the jab effectively. I know Cotto is much faster than Marg and it's tough to land a jab on a quick fighter like him but at least throw it with some conviction. He was pawing with it all night.

                If he throws a better jab, spaces himself right for defensive purposes, he will destroy Cotto the second time around in under 9.

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                • larryx
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                  #18
                  i think cotto will win a close ud this time around/but i wont be surprised is this ends up like taylor pavlik all over again with cotto making it to the finish line but still losing

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                  • baya
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                    He didn't slip and move in the first fight? He didn't give him angles in the first fight?

                    He fought a great fight, he was boxing circles around Marg for 6 rounds out of the first 8. He was landing clean BOMBS on Marg and.....nothing.

                    Margarito is too big and too strong for Cotto, always will be.

                    If anything, there are many things that Marg can do to improve his performance. For example, he never used his length to an advantage over Cotto until late in the fight. SPACING is probably the most underrated thing talked about in the gym and I preach it to my fighters all the time.

                    Spacing gives you accuracy. When you are too close or too far away, you either smother your punches or miss short of the target. Marg was in too close, allowing Cotto to counter the left uppercut with his own left hook which was landing flush on Marg's face all night long.

                    He adjusted in the last 2 rounds and stood a little farther way when throwing his punches and Cotto missed by just and inch but enough where he couldn't counter Marg even though he was much faster.

                    Another thing is, Marg never used the jab effectively. I know Cotto is much faster than Marg and it's tough to land a jab on a quick fighter like him but at least throw it with some conviction. He was pawing with it all night.

                    If he throws a better jab, spaces himself right for defensive purposes, he will destroy Cotto the second time around in under 9.
                    spacing and timing, he'll never be in posession of. margarito, its no secret that he gets by on sheer size, chin and strength. he did better with cotto in the later rounds because cotto didn't aptly space himself - CLINCH - with clinching he'll make margarito have to resort to less useful weapons like a jab.

                    the broken nose early on in the fight i believe had something to do with cotto's immense lack of conditioning in the 2nd part of the fight.

                    give it time, with some adjustments a better game plan cotto can win this fight next go' round. you need to tie this man up and not let him work the inside, if cotto can get around his pride and tie him up - its his to win.

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                    • Tha_Greatest
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by baya
                      nah bro. i saw things that he did wrong. he couldn't move that much to perfection in the first fight because he expended too much energy. margarito is too big for most anyone in the WW division - so you beat him how you said, by pot shotting him and turning him.

                      cotto can do this, he was very tired in the lovemore n'dou fight and continued to do this with the bigger man at the time. cotto's been elusive enough in past fights and he needs to do so again with margarito.

                      all cotto has to do is side step him - continue to show him angles and most importantly, CLINCH.

                      ud or sd for cotto.

                      cotto's the animal here, he wants the rematch. same things were said before many times, duran / leonard - schmeling / louis - and cotto will be part of that class. he has the elusiveness and workrate to beat margarito - most definitely.
                      This is hilarios **** here, he did all you said about pot shotting Marg in their fight and he got a far worse beating than Rodney King, most definitely, if Cotto wants to be treated like an animal Margarito wont treat Cotex like a puppy, he'll treat him like a sweet puppy, than hed give technically sound Cotex a puppy beatdown like when they dont listen to their master

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