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  • Ray*
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    #11
    Originally posted by El Dominicano
    What would you consider ducking? Have any names?


    For me i called the Hatton/Witter situation a straight out duck, No ifs or buts about it, when a fighters start using his lawyers to tell another fighter he wouldnt fight him/ or because the fighter said "one day" to him has an excuse on why the fight didnt happen mean he wanted no part of the other guy.

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    • Ray*
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      #12
      Originally posted by squealpiggy
      I know what names he has.

      Obviously you would know lol, How many times have me and you been through this???

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      • El Dominicano
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        #13
        Originally posted by raycorey
        For me i called the Hatton/Witter situation a straight out duck, No ifs or buts about it, when a fighters start using his lawyers to tell another fighter he wouldnt fight him/ or because the fighter said "one day" to him has an excuse on why the fight didnt happen mean he wanted no part of the other guy.
        Agree that was a straight up duck!

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        • Dick-Sucker
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          #14
          Mundien has called out Winky, JT, Pavlik, Hopkins. He has no intention of fighting any. So yes. Its still ducking.

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          • MANGLER
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            #15
            Not always. The challenged fighter can get away wit brushin off a call out unless there's absolutely no reason for him to not face the guy who called him out.

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            • Dambala
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              #16
              Recently depends more on the relationship between fighter/promoter/manager, and if the fighter thinks more like a businessman and has more control of his career. A fighter like Floyd didn't fight Tony or Cotto coz he wasn't making historical numbers with them, and that's what he wants. In certain way he ducked them but wasn't good for him as a businessman. Sadly.

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              • The Hammer
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                #17
                Usually no, sometimes yes.

                Some boxers call a champion out because they want a big money fight. To refuse them is not ducking.

                However if someone chooses a lesser fighter instead of a good one who's calling him out, in order to have a certain win, that's ducking.

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                • Feint
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                  #18
                  No.

                  I can call out Wladimir Klitschko all I want but there is about a million reasons why the fight isn't going to happen, and trust me none of those reasons having anything to do with him trying to duck me.

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                  • squealpiggy
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by raycorey
                    For me i called the Hatton/Witter situation a straight out duck, No ifs or buts about it, when a fighters start using his lawyers to tell another fighter he wouldnt fight him/ or because the fighter said "one day" to him has an excuse on why the fight didnt happen mean he wanted no part of the other guy.
                    Realistically there have only been about three times when it would have made any sense for Hatton to fight Witter: When Hatton had the British title (but Hatton fought for the WBU "world" title in his next fight instead), when Witter won the WBC title (but then Hatton went on to fight Mayweather at a higher weight) and right after Hatton lost.... but then Witter lost his next fight and all of a sudden it didn't make sense. This is something that can't be called a duck, just because one of the guys spent all of his time calling out the other instead of attempting to surpass or match his achievement. In other words between 2001 and 2005 when Hatton was in WBU hell why wasn't Witter going after world title shots? Witter had 14 fights between 2001 and 2005 and six of those fights were not 12 rounders. In fact 3 of those fights were six rounders. He wasted a full year ****ing about for paycheques instead of looking at genuine title shots. Sure he fought Judah but he never attempted to win that fight, it was all "Hatton Hatton Hatton". He had his shot right there and never believed he could take it.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by squealpiggy
                      Realistically there have only been about three times when it would have made any sense for Hatton to fight Witter: When Hatton had the British title (but Hatton fought for the WBU "world" title in his next fight instead), when Witter won the WBC title (but then Hatton went on to fight Mayweather at a higher weight) and right after Hatton lost.... but then Witter lost his next fight and all of a sudden it didn't make sense. This is something that can't be called a duck, just because one of the guys spent all of his time calling out the other instead of attempting to surpass or match his achievement. In other words between 2001 and 2005 when Hatton was in WBU hell why wasn't Witter going after world title shots? Witter had 14 fights between 2001 and 2005 and six of those fights were not 12 rounders. In fact 3 of those fights were six rounders. He wasted a full year ****ing about for paycheques instead of looking at genuine title shots. Sure he fought Judah but he never attempted to win that fight, it was all "Hatton Hatton Hatton". He had his shot right there and never believed he could take it.

                      Am really not going to go over this again because the fight is irrelevant now, He lost a good grudge match because someone doesnt want the other guy to get a payday or the list of about 20 excuses from Hatton and his camp, Its easy to push it under the carpet because HEY its Hatton and we are not suppose to question him at all, all i know is the chance for the fight to happen was clear in about 10 different ways/times and i believe in my wholeheart without any biase that hatton plain out duck the fight.

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