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    #111
    lol at Floyds most memorable achievement in the sporting world having to do with his bank rather than with his fists.

    The dude is a boxer, nobody other than those involved really cares about the bread.

    A fighter of his caliber ought to be remembered by his accomplishments within the ropes. He'll mostly be remembered for his money and for not living up to his claims.

    Thats a waste of a great talent if you ask me.


    I watch and enjoy boxing for boxing. Drawing power, PPVs sold, money made, etc, etc...doesn't really concern me.

    I'm sure 99.9999999999% of the rest of the boxing fans feel the same way.

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    • Horus
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      #112
      Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
      lol at Floyds most memorable achievement in the sporting world having to do with his bank rather than with his fists.

      The dude is a boxer, nobody other than those involved really cares about the bread.

      A fighter of his caliber ought to be remembered by his accomplishments within the ropes. He'll mostly be remembered for his money and for not living up to his claims.

      Thats a waste of a great talent if you ask me.


      I watch and enjoy boxing for boxing. Drawing power, PPVs sold, money made, etc, etc...doesn't really concern me.

      I'm sure 99.9999999999% of the rest of the boxing fans feel the same way.
      Mayweather is boxing’s best all-around fighter period.
      Look @ his dominance over his opposition. Few fighters have ever been as statistically superior to his opponents than Mayweather, who rarely loses rounds, much less fights. A recent CompuBox analysis determined that the “Pretty Boy” leads the sport in “plus-minus” rating – and not by a little. The “plus-minus” is the difference between a fighter’s average connect percentage and that of his opponents, and Mayweather’s plus-30 (46 percent to 16 percent) is seven percentage points ahead of his closest competition, Juan Diaz, who owns a plus-23.

      Mayweather’s rating compares favorably to the prime Roy Jones (plus-23) and Pernell Whitaker (plus-16). For the record



      Look at this PBF stat.....

      WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP
      FORMER JR. MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP (07)
      FORMER JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP (’05)
      FORMER LIGHTWEIGHT (2002-04)
      FORMER JR. LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMP (1998-00)
      17-0-0, 8 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
      9-0-0 (6) at jr. light.
      4-0-0 (1) at light.
      1-0-0 (1) at jr. welter.
      2-0-0 (0) at welter.
      1-0-0 (0) at jr. middle.
      17 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
      (63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
      38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
      (45% of his fights have been championship fights)


      The guy is the greatest of this generation..!!!


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        #113
        Originally posted by Horus
        Mayweather is boxing’s best all-around fighter period.
        Look @ his dominance over his opposition. Few fighters have ever been as statistically superior to his opponents than Mayweather, who rarely loses rounds, much less fights. A recent CompuBox analysis determined that the “Pretty Boy” leads the sport in “plus-minus” rating – and not by a little. The “plus-minus” is the difference between a fighter’s average connect percentage and that of his opponents, and Mayweather’s plus-30 (46 percent to 16 percent) is seven percentage points ahead of his closest competition, Juan Diaz, who owns a plus-23.

        Mayweather’s rating compares favorably to the prime Roy Jones (plus-23) and Pernell Whitaker (plus-16). For the record



        Look at this PBF stat.....

        WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP
        FORMER JR. MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP (07)
        FORMER JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP (’05)
        FORMER LIGHTWEIGHT (2002-04)
        FORMER JR. LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMP (1998-00)
        17-0-0, 8 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
        9-0-0 (6) at jr. light.
        4-0-0 (1) at light.
        1-0-0 (1) at jr. welter.
        2-0-0 (0) at welter.
        1-0-0 (0) at jr. middle.
        17 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
        (63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
        38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
        (45% of his fights have been championship fights)


        The guy is the greatest of this generation..!!!


        Wow, those stats are truly impressive. I have ALWAYS respected Floyd's abilities as a natural boxing talent but these stats actually make me respect him even more. A talent like that is missed for sure.

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        • Horus
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          #114
          Originally posted by roundingace
          Wow, those stats are truly impressive. I have ALWAYS respected Floyd's abilities as a natural boxing talent but these stats actually make me respect him even more. A talent like that is missed for sure.


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          1996-2008
          Greatest of His Generation...
          Greatest Super Featherweight of All Time
          Top Ten light welterweight of All Time
          Top 10 lightweight of All Time

          Trademarked The Pocket Offense and Defense
          Trademarked The Shoulder Roll

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            #115
            Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
            lol at Floyds most memorable achievement in the sporting world having to do with his bank rather than with his fists.

            The dude is a boxer, nobody other than those involved really cares about the bread.

            A fighter of his caliber ought to be remembered by his accomplishments within the ropes. He'll mostly be remembered for his money and for not living up to his claims.

            Thats a waste of a great talent if you ask me.


            I watch and enjoy boxing for boxing. Drawing power, PPVs sold, money made, etc, etc...doesn't really concern me.

            I'm sure 99.9999999999% of the rest of the boxing fans feel the same way.

            Co-sign. The **** about PPVs and all that gets way too much play. We should just enjoy the fights.

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            • Horus
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              #116
              Originally posted by mangler
              Co-sign. The **** about PPVs and all that gets way too much play. We should just enjoy the fights.
              de la hoya started it. as a reason why he duck Mayweather for 6 years

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                #117
                In all honesty, Pac v. Delahoya will do better. I think they'll have less ppv in the states. But, Delahoya v. Pac is being sold for a lot of money to the Phillipines, then you have a big Europe audience. But i don't think it'll make so much more then Delahoy v. Mayweather JR.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Horus
                  de la hoya started it. as a reason why he duck Mayweather for 6 years
                  Delahoya ducked Mayweather for 6 years, LMFAO.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    Delahoya ducked Mayweather for 6 years, LMFAO.

                    Co-sign that too. Where the **** did that **** come from?

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                    • Horus
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      What will have More Eminent Drawing Power: Pac vs.Oscar or Oscar vs. FLOYD


                      This Fight will Settle it all About Who is the bigger draw, and Who really has the bigger fanbase in the last few years.
                      And Ultimately who was the face of boxing for the last few years from a drawing standpoint.

                      In the year 2007 Floyd was KING of the Box Office
                      Floyd Headline The Bouts That helped make 2007 HBO's best year in Pay-Per-View history -- 4.8 million buys and more than $255 million in revenue. The previous high for HBO PPV in boxing was in 1999 with four million buys and $200 million in revenue.


                      Will PacMan vs. Oscar sell do better than Oscar vs.FLOYD ....????

                      or even

                      Will Pacman vs. Oscar do better than Hatton vs. FLOYD ..???


                      For Fun

                      Will Pacman vs. Oscar do better than BigShow vs. FLOYD ...?()


                      Circumstances:

                      Floyd vs. Oscar:
                      • Sold out in Three hours
                      • Sold More than 2.15 million Buys at $54.95 for the fight, Those numbers produced the highest grossing fight in boxing history, $134.4 million domestically and $165 million worldwide, and a record $19 million live gate.
                      • Broke every boxing record there was....
                      • Floyd was the P4P#1 Fighter in the Sport.


                      Mayweather vs. Hatton
                      • Sold out in 30 minutes.
                      • Sold More than 2.05 million Buys at 54.95 worldwide
                      • Broke every boxing record there was in the United Kingdom


                      Just For Fun:
                      2008: Mayweather vs. Big Show ()()
                      Sold more than 1.1 million pay-per-view buys



                      Now My Argument to end all Arguments...Are 2 Arguments

                      1. If Manny Pacqauio is really more Popular than Floyd...
                      This Fight Should break What Floyd vs. Oscar did on P.P.V

                      2. If Oscar De La Hoya was Majority of the reason for the Floyd vs. Oscar doing so well.
                      Than this fight with another P4P#1 Fighter in the World should Prove it.
                      Because the Circumstances are the same. Meaning Once again Oscar is fighting the #1 P4P fighter in the Sport.


                      Similarities:

                      Look Pacquaio is Pound 4 Pound #1 fighter just Like Floyd was.
                      This Fight is going to get a 24/7 Just like The Floyd got with Oscar
                      Oscar is still reguarding as the most Popular Fighter in the Sport just like he was with Floyd

                      So As a result their should be No excuses.

                      This fight will ultimately Prove 2 things
                      • 1. Who really sold the first Fight Out of Oscar and Floyd
                      • 2.This fight will Prove if Manny Pacqauio can draw the same amount of P.P.V's Floyd did with Oscar De La hoya



                      If Manny Pacquaio vs. Oscar De La Hoya doesn't beat the P.P.V numbers that
                      Floyd Mayweather vs. Oscar De La Hoya did....Than there can be no more arguments about the 2 Arguments I presented in this Thread.


                      If I am Proven Right Than thats tells you two things....


                      1. Floyd was Majority of the reason for the Huge P.P.V success and for the fight selling out in 3 hours in the fight with Oscar

                      2. Manny Pacquaio with the same Opponent doesnt compare to Floyd, and He does not have the same drawing Power as Floyd.

                      Let's Remember,Manny Has a whole Country behind him so their is no Excuse.!
                      Because I remember when people were saying if "Manny Pacquaio were fighting Oscar it would have broke all PPV Records Too...."

                      Well now it's time to find out The Truth.
                      Anybody want to bet Me that this Fight doesnt do better than
                      Hatton vs. Mayweather....

                      Dont use that economy bull****...
                      because ufc 91 just did around 800,000 P.P.V's

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