Manny Pacquiao: Has He Sold Out ? and Is He Really The Best Pound For Pound?

[Left Hook Tua]

All Seriousness, I Dont Have Real Problem With Pacman Resume And Who He Should Have Fought. But I'm Starting To Think Horus Had A Point About The Double Standard....

Pacman Must Be Vetted In The Same Way And Criticized Just As Harshly As A Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Or Roy Jones Jr. Truth Be Told He Cant Compare To None Of Those Fighters. He Is Good Fighter, But He Isn't Legendary Atleast Not Yet.

There Is Validity In Questioning Why Didn't He Rematch Jmm Immediately ( I Know Tua, U Pointed Out He Turned It Down And Raheem Did Have A Belt Which Was Won When He Fought Morales I Believe, I Think It Was Vacant) Why He Didn't Fight Raheem, Why He Hasn't Even Mentioned Nate Or Guzman Or Juan Diaz For That Matter. Which I Think He Beats Them All With Guzman Being A Challenge For Him. He Considered #1, He Deserves The Same Pressure As All The Others. I Don't Want To See Him Fight Small And Overmatched Diaz Or Soto. Fight The Winner Of Guzman/campbell Pacman...afterall U Gotta Prove Your The Best P4p

you can make a case that manny's resume is already on the same level as floyd.

you mention bernard as legendary but don't want manny to fight guys smaller than him? lmfao

how is diaz and soto smaller than pac? david fought almost half of his fights at 140 and even 147. soto has been fighting at 130 since 2001. manny was at 122 in 2001!

manny has been at lightweight for a total of 3 months and you're already talking about him not fighting other lightweights?

btw the belt zahir raheem had was like wba or wbc intercontinental or international.

if you count the wba/wbo/ibf/wbc intercontinental or international belts as belts then david tua was a champion then.

[Left Hook Tua]

I missed these fights, can you tell me the results of them since you're wanting to talk about fighters proving themselves against the best their division has to offer.....

Floyd-Cotto
Floyd-Margarito
Floyd-Paul.

be nice.

floyd was only at 147 for 3-4 years. he didn't have time to fight those guys.

manny on the otherhand has been fighting at 135 for almost 3 months now.

why are you judging floyd so unfairly and why is manny getting special favors?

[shadeyfizzle]

i dont care about pacs previous losses at those weights, the losses i care about are the ones where he was a full grown man, losses at 15 or 16, i never care about. Bring up one thread where i start getting on a fighter like margarito or pacman because he lost as a teen.

I believe we're not on the same page here. Im not saying you're bagging on Pacquiao's early losses.

Lets try it this way....

If Pacquiao was undefeated today and Mayweather still active...who would you have as #1 p4p?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I believe we're not on the same page here. Im not saying you're bagging on Pacquiao's early losses.

Lets try it this way....

If Pacquiao was undefeated today and Mayweather still active...who would you have as #1 p4p?

the media has a huge infatuation with that "0"

[ElGranLuchador]

Raheem Defeated Morales Before He Fought Pacman The 2nd Time. What Belt Did Morales Have The 2nd Fight? Raheem Had The Lw . Title At The Time. I Agree With That Last Part Though, No Doubt.

u are clearly ignorant raheem never held any alphabet titles nor the ring title and never will
he only held a intercontinental (not even interim) belt that didnt mean ****

[shadeyfizzle]

the media has a huge infatuation with that "0"

Yes they do. But im trying to state a point here. Im more interested in the answer why than the 0 itself

[Left Hook Tua]

Yes they do. But im trying to state a point here. Im more interested in the answer why than the 0 itself

jmm should be #1. jmm is undefeated.

[El Jesus]

I believe we're not on the same page here. Im not saying you're bagging on Pacquiao's early losses.

Lets try it this way....

If Pacquiao was undefeated today and Mayweather still active...who would you have as #1 p4p?

Hes not, so im not even going to answer that question. I dont care to answer it either way ,because he wouldnt be regardless. What is de la hoya went undefeated with his resume, hed probably be number 2 alltime. I cant sit here and say one way or the other, because pac lost to morales, he, in my humble opinion, lost to marquez once, so i cant say either way. The losses turned pacmans career and style around, without them he wouldnt be who he is today.

[shadeyfizzle]

jmm should be #1. jmm is undefeated.

Why should he be #1 for any other reason besides undefeated??

[Left Hook Tua]

Why should he be #1 for any other reason besides undefeated??

gainer , medina , pacquiao , norwood , john , barrera...... great wins. excellent resume.