Manny Pacquiao: Has He Sold Out ? and Is He Really The Best Pound For Pound?

[El Jesus]

Well that brings up a question I posed be4. Since they are basically the same size...if pacman had a extensive amateur career and born into a family of former world champs just like floyd. Or if floyd grew up in a 3rd world country and turned pro at 16 like pac whos better?

If pacman grew up in our system he wouldnt even be the same fighter, so it doesnt even matter.

[El Jesus]

No, because nobody here is talking amateurs.


Besides, the point you're trying to address, isn't even there.

The point is, there aren't many or ever will be many Blacks or american fighters dominating the lower divisions.

Hence, the reason why Manny Pacquiao hasn't fought any.

Ok this is reasonable. I understand what you are saying.

[Left Hook Tua]

my vote is for Tim Witherspoon.

can they be dead fighters? or do they have to be alive?

if dead is allowed...... henry armstrong for me

[Left Hook Tua]

No, because nobody here is talking amateurs.


Besides, the point you're trying to address, isn't even there.

The point is, there aren't many or ever will be many Blacks or american fighters dominating the lower divisions.

Hence, the reason why Manny Pacquiao hasn't fought any.

morales
barrera
hamed
marquez
ayala
adams
larios
ledwaba
gainer

these were the top guys at 122-130 at the same time manny was in those divisions.

only the last 2 were black and manny fought one of them.

[Live Dog]

Zab Judah is black. It's not relevant, I'm just saying.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

morales
barrera
hamed
marquez
ayala
adams
larios
ledwaba
gainer

these were the top guys at 122-130 at the same time manny was in those divisions.

only the last 2 were black and manny fought one of them.

only means one thing...PAC has to fight Gainer to validate being the best

[Left Hook Tua]

Zab Judah is black. It's not relevant, I'm just saying.

dooooooooon't plaaaaaaaaaay wiiiiiiiiiiiiiith maaaaaaaaaaaatcheeeeeeeeeeessss

[Eaner0919]

morales
barrera
hamed
marquez
ayala
adams
larios
ledwaba
gainer

these were the top guys at 122-130 at the same time manny was in those divisions.

only the last 2 were black and manny fought one of them.

so basically what you are saying is that Manny ducked Smoke Gainer?

if so then well


AGREED!

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Zab Judah is black. It's not relevant, I'm just saying.

zab doesnt have eyebrows...not relevant, im just sayin..lol

[shadeyfizzle]

If pacman grew up in our system he wouldnt even be the same fighter, so it doesnt even matter.

Neither would floyd if he hadnt grown up the way he did. Floyd dominates through technical skill and ring generalship that can only be gained through experience and coaching. Take the fundamentals away from him and throw him in a pro ring at 16 you dont think he'd have early losses or be anywhere near what he actually is??

Meanwhile if Pacquiao had a former world champ as a uncle roger to show him how to use his blend of speed and power properly while adding defense since age 5 you dont think he'd be tenthfold more dominating than what he is today??