Manny Pacquiao: Has He Sold Out ? and Is He Really The Best Pound For Pound?

[Boofdatruth]

Yeah Cal should be P4P number 1 followed by Guzman at 2 then Valero base on thier undefeated records. Here's boof's lists........


1. Calzaghe
2. Guzman
3. Valero
4. Pavlik
5. Linares
6. Molitor
7. Calderon
8. Narvaez
9. Povetkin
10. Khan



Great list!! Undefeated fighters are the best and perfect!!

Sorry, but this simpleton type of thinking is about as low class a post that I've read here. Your sig suggests you have a very low valued opinion anyway. I'm only talking about 2 fighters. Cal and PAc. You are not talking to a kid lol. You want to talk boxing, talk boxing. Don't talk lunacy/garbage like this, and expect respect from posters lol.

[Boofdatruth]

Honestly guys. Im so sick of this Barrera/Morales was shot excuse. i challenge anyone to name 1 fighter in the featherweight/superfeather divisions at the time able to beat Marquez/Barrera/Morales convingly not named Pacquiao?? In that whole time frame Rocky Juarez was the only other serious contender and was blown out by both Barrera and Marquez

They weren't shot, they were just past their best. You can talk that "I challenge you crap" all you want, but Pac has very few prime fighters on his resume that you've seen. Valero and Guzman were around when he was beating up old men, but Arum thought PAc could make more money fighting the ring old guys so keep it real.

[Chups]

Sorry, but this simpleton type of thinking is about as low class a post that I've read here. Your sig suggests you have a very low valued opinion anyway. I'm only talking about 2 fighters. Cal and PAc. You are not talking to a kid lol. You want to talk boxing, talk boxing. don't spread garbage like this, and expect respect from posters.

I really thought you were the simpleton, so I tried going down to your level. The P4P list is not just about Undefeated records but more importantly is the level of competition and skill. How can you ever compare Cal's resume against Pac? The only HOF material Calzaghe fought is Bernard Hopkins and he's 96 years old for god's sake....talk about twilight in his career. They don't have the same resume...Pac's is miles away, so you went ahead and claimed Cal has an undefeated record.....LOL!

Don't act like you know more boxing than me.....you're even claiming Valero would finish Pac. Valero is a joke, it will be an exciting fight but the result will be faster than Diaz.

Again The Ring has the most credible Pound 4 Pound list, they've been rating boxers for 90 years. I always agree and trust thier list. If they say Pac is number 1 then it is, just as I agree that Floyd was the P4P 1 before he retired. I bet you're the many people who couldn't figure out why Bernard is still in thier list. If you don't you need an education on boxing and common sense thinking.

[Chups]

They weren't shot, they were just past their best. You can talk that "I challenge you crap" all you want, but Pac has very few prime fighters on his resume that you've seen. Valero and Guzman were around when he was beating up old men, but Arum thought PAc could make more money fighting the ring old guys so keep it real.

Barrera, Morales and Marquez were at the P4P list when Pacquiao fought them. Nobody would have beaten them at that time except for themselves. They were past thier best but they weren't shot. Please review boxing terms. Thanks.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Barrera, Morales and Marquez were at the P4P list when Pacquiao fought them. Nobody would have beaten them at that time except for themselves. They were past thier best but they weren't shot. Please review boxing terms. Thanks.

You're dealing with boofdadoof.

Think about that for a second and quit wasting your time.

[Left Hook Tua]

no he wasnt he just held the wbc belt

wasn't the russian dude lineal champ when sasakul beat him?

[Left Hook Tua]

You saw him fight?

i have it in my dvd collection.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

NAKS! chups spittin fire...astig!

[JAB5239]

Barrera, Morales and Marquez were at the P4P list when Pacquiao fought them. Nobody would have beaten them at that time except for themselves. They were past thier best but they weren't shot. Please review boxing terms. Thanks.

Exactly! They may have been past their personal best, but they were still better than anyone else at the time.

[Bogler]

They weren't shot, they were just past their best. You can talk that "I challenge you crap" all you want, but Pac has very few prime fighters on his resume that you've seen. Valero and Guzman were around when he was beating up old men, but Arum thought PAc could make more money fighting the ring old guys so keep it real.

why do you have a walrus for a sig and avatar?