Who showed more heart, Vargas against Tito or Cotto against Margarito?

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  • Del Coqui
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    #71
    Originally posted by The Slickster
    Let me give you guys a quick primer on steroids.
    They have this stuff out now called HGH.
    Anyone ever heard of it?
    Its undetectible and works way better than steroids.

    Which brings me to this question about Margarito.
    The stamina he showed against Cotto was quite unnatural in my opinion.
    How could ANYONE be that fresh if they werent using some sort of drug?
    I dont care If he train at the summit of MT EVEREST.
    Something was not right about that guy....I cant prove it but I feel it in my gut.

    You know they have stuff that cyclist take(AHEM:Lance Armstrong) that will give you mucho endurance.
    Im just saying.......
    Good point, but Margarito always fights like that.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #72
      Originally posted by Puas
      Which fighter demonstrated more balls? Fernando in his epic battle agaist Tito Trinidad or Miguel Cotto in his struggle agaist Tony Margarito???
      vargas is more warrior than cotto.

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      • The Slickster
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        #73
        Maybe he is always on something.
        Ive never seen another boxer that punches alot like him that fresh against a KILLER like Cotto.
        NO ****ING WAY.

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        • ferocity
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          #74
          Originally posted by The Slickster
          Maybe he is always on something.
          Ive never seen another boxer that punches alot like him that fresh against a KILLER like Cotto.
          NO ****ING WAY.
          you must not watch enough boxing

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          • Del Coqui
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            #75
            Originally posted by The Slickster
            Maybe he is always on something.
            Ive never seen another boxer that punches alot like him that fresh against a KILLER like Cotto.
            NO ****ING WAY.
            Is HGH similar to endothil? I heard endothil is some heavey **** and that its legal.

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            • ANDROID_DOES
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              #76
              Originally posted by anonymousboxing
              ****** question & Easy answer?
              Vargas was down a bunch of times so that automatically wipes Cotto from having heart?
              It's not a ****** question! It's DEBATABLE. Your opinion is just close-minded.
              If you or ANYONE picks Vargas - I can understand why, but don't act like Cotto had no heart just because in your opinion Vargas had more.

              Cotto felt defeat coming for the first time, was smart enough to take a knee cause he knew he reached his limit, but he's discredited because he wasn't knocked down?!
              WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEART NOT ******ITY.

              You think adversity comes ONLY AFTER YOU GET KNOCKED DOWN. So of coarse in your opinion it's gonna be Vargas! HE WENT DOWN EARLY!

              But Heart is your ability to rise up against tough adversity in the ring, no matter how grave the the circumstance or situation becomes.
              That point of adversity hit REALLY early for Cotto against Marg. THAT'S the point you have to measure from. NOT THE END WHEN THE FIGHT WAS OVER.
              From the point he realized that Marg could take his best hit in round 2, through the score card shift and broken nose midway, those late rounds he was STILL hitting accurately and moving good, regardless of the look of defeat on his face in those last 4 rounds.

              He didn't dodge a guy who's avoided by some of the best, AND EVEN AFTER A DEFEAT LIKE THAT, he says he's gonna fight him again one day.

              You pick Vargas? good for you.
              But DON'T discredit this question as being ****** or not debatable just because you think adversity means being knocked down.


              the question was who had showed more heart? It's a simple question. Even to you **** riding cotto fans that twist everything to the end. Don't you think vargas could have done the same thing after the second knock down, the third, or the fourth knock down? he could have simply took a knee like cotto did and say i had enough. But no that's not what he did he got up and fired back like a warrior and showed his true heart. Your man didn't do that therefore vargas showed better heart. Now is that a hard question? no! Get cotto's you know what out of your mouth. "he's smarter" is now the new excuse lmao!
              Last edited by ANDROID_DOES; 08-29-2008, 02:17 PM.

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              • anonymousboxing
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                #77
                Originally posted by The Slickster
                Let me give you guys a quick primer on steroids.
                They have this stuff out now called HGH.
                Anyone ever heard of it?
                Its undetectible and works way better than steroids.

                Which brings me to this question about Margarito.
                The stamina he showed against Cotto was quite unnatural in my opinion.
                How could ANYONE be that fresh if they werent using some sort of drug?
                I dont care If he train at the summit of MT EVEREST.
                Something was not right about that guy....I cant prove it but I feel it in my gut.

                You know they have stuff that cyclist take(AHEM:Lance Armstrong) that will give you mucho endurance.
                Im just saying.......
                I know what you mean Slickster. I had similar thoughts too until he was tested after the fight. But I won't take anything away from his hard-earned victory without proof. Look at the other side of the spectrum though.
                The more stress you put your body through in training - the more stress your body can handle in the ring - INCLUDING resistance to ko hits.
                Marg felt like this was the biggest fight of his career, even Kellerman said, "I wouldn't wanna be Cotto. I wouldn't want to be in the ring against a guy who thinks he's finally arrived". Marg FINALLY got his shot after being avoided for so long, so I can see him motivated enough to go through dangerous level training. Which is exactly what he needed to walk through Cotto's bombs.




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                • ANDROID_DOES
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Slickster
                  Let me give you guys a quick primer on steroids.
                  They have this stuff out now called HGH.
                  Anyone ever heard of it?
                  Its undetectible and works way better than steroids.

                  Which brings me to this question about Margarito.
                  The stamina he showed against Cotto was quite unnatural in my opinion.
                  How could ANYONE be that fresh if they werent using some sort of drug?
                  I dont care If he train at the summit of MT EVEREST.
                  Something was not right about that guy....I cant prove it but I feel it in my gut.

                  You know they have stuff that cyclist take(AHEM:Lance Armstrong) that will give you mucho endurance.
                  Im just saying.......
                  first your an alt and second margarito has always had stamina. Your a moron! Cotto did nothing that would slow margarito down. Cotto never worked the body! There's no reason why margarito couldnt go another 11 rounds.

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                  • anonymousboxing
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
                    the question was who had showed more heart? It's a simple question. Even to you **** riding cotto fans that twist everything to the end. Don't you think vargas could have done the same thing after the second knock down, the third, or the fourth knock down? he could have simply took a knee like cotto did and say i had enough. But no that's not what he did he got up and fired back like a warrior and showed his true heart. Your man didn't do that therefore vargas showed better heart. Now is that a hard question? no! Get cotto's you know what out of your mouth. "he's smarter" is now the new excuse lmao!

                    Judging by your ****** response I would guess you just didn't understand what I said. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from Vargas or those who voted Vargas! YOU'RE THE ONE TAKING AWAY FROM COTTO. He didn't have heart just cause he never went down?! BULL!!!!
                    Quiet down and Let the adults talk.
                    Your response is so immature I won't waist my time talking to some kid on his moms computer, or a pathetic adult who hasn't got the wit to respond with respect!!!!!




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                    • El Chicano
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
                      the question was who had showed more heart? It's a simple question. Even to you **** riding cotto fans that twist everything to the end. Don't you think vargas could have done the same thing after the second knock down, the third, or the fourth knock down? he could have simply took a knee like cotto did and say i had enough. But no that's not what he did he got up and fired back like a warrior and showed his true heart. Your man didn't do that therefore vargas showed better heart. Now is that a hard question? no! Get cotto's you know what out of your mouth. "he's smarter" is now the new excuse lmao!
                      Vargas fought to the very end. Tito was catching him with every shot in the final seconds of the fight and Fernando was fighting on pure heart. Cotto took a knee while he was still able defend himself. I think it's pretty easy to determine who had more balls.

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