When did Calzaghe past his prime??

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  • T-97
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    #11
    Originally posted by abadger
    Its basically the same scenario as Hopkins, best wins and best actual skill come late in his career, but he's not the physical fighter he used to be. He also looked to have lost a lot when he fought B-Hop.
    I still feel B-Hop had something to do with that, No one looks good against him. I want to see Joe against Jones before making a judgement on it tbh

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      #12
      It doesn't matter if he has less hand speed or power now. He's a much fighter than when he did have more of those attributes. Calzaghe is a late bloomer imo. Just like Lennox Lewis, his pure physical prime ended before he was at his best.

      His performance against Kessler was the best in his career. That was only 2 fights ago, so this confirms my theory. And of cource unfortunately for him he ran into Hopkins, and I doubt he's the same now.

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        #13
        I think his prime ended sometime around 2006.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Precision
          His performance against Kessler was top notch.

          I feel he was at his best from 2005 till now.

          His performance against Hopkins is misleading because Hopkins makes everyone look bad. The move up in weight might of even affected him. His performance against Jones will identify if Calzaghe is still in his prime or now past it.
          Couldn't agree more my dude! This is Calz's REALEST test ever....why? because Roy is a special fighter who does special things in that ring! Calzaghe has NEVER faced a RJJ!!
          Roy's hand speed will overwhelm Calzaghe like none before!

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            #15
            Originally posted by T-97
            I still feel B-Hop had something to do with that, No one looks good against him. I want to see Joe against Jones before making a judgement on it tbh
            I hope so, and that might be right. I will be very happy if Calzaghe proves able to still perform as well as he did against Kessler because hopefully he'll continue fighting and pwn a few more yanks (ha ha!)

            I do think he looked a bit sluggish though, I thought he didn't carry the extra weight very well. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

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              #16
              Just a question...

              Those of you who say calzaghe is still prime, which old fights of his have you seen? It is impossible to conclude that Calzaghe is still as physicaly able as he once was, he is slower and less powerful than he used to be by a country mile.

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                #17
                Originally posted by abadger
                I hope so, and that might be right. I will be very happy if Calzaghe proves able to still perform as well as he did against Kessler because hopefully he'll continue fighting and pwn a few more yanks (ha ha!)

                I do think he looked a bit sluggish though, I thought he didn't carry the extra weight very well. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
                I agree, he did. I think a few things may have contributed to it tbh. His first fight in America, and at a new weight. There is 2 new things to get used to right off the bat, Then he was dropped early by Hopkins which made him a but hesitant for a while IMO.

                Then, on top of that, Hopkins style is the Anti-Calzaghe, He has the style to make him look bad. I hope he looks back on form against Jones as he might not retire then, and maybe fight Pavlik!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  Just a question...

                  Those of you who say calzaghe is still prime, which old fights of his have you seen? It is impossible to conclude that Calzaghe is still as physicaly able as he once was, he is slower and less powerful than he used to be by a country mile.
                  No way was he past his prime against Kessler that was an amazing boxing display, what was it 1000 punches thrown. That’s amazing against a unproven yet decent boxer.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Flawless
                    No way was he past his prime against Kessler that was an amazing boxing display, what was it 1000 punches thrown. That’s amazing against a unproven yet decent boxer.
                    Look at it like this:

                    The Hopkins that beat Trinidad was not the same Hopkins that beat Segundo Mercado, he'd lost something but gained something too.

                    The Hopkins that beat Tarver was not the same Hopkins that beat Trinidad, again, he'd lost something, but gained something too.

                    Exactly the same thing with Joe.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      Just a question...

                      Those of you who say calzaghe is still prime, which old fights of his have you seen? It is impossible to conclude that Calzaghe is still as physicaly able as he once was, he is slower and less powerful than he used to be by a country mile.
                      Physically i can agree that he has diminished, his power has big time and his hands ain't as fast as they were early in his career but his boxing intelligence, ability to adapt to his opponents style and workrate are still great.

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