Muhammad Ali- Was he the greatest heavyweight?

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  • Kid Achilles
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    #161
    So just because Holmes beat Ali when he was old that means he would have no chance of beating a prime Ali? That's a terrible argument.

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      #162
      Originally posted by Kid Achilles
      So just because Holmes beat Ali when he was old that means he would have no chance of beating a prime Ali? That's a terrible argument.
      but that doesn't mean he would beat prime ali.

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      • yrrej
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        #163
        Ali wasn't....

        The greatest technical fighter by a long shot. Not much power, but the few skills he possessed in combination, like the jab and foot movement, were heads above the other guys and adequate to bring down better skill guys. He was probably the fastest guy for his size, phenomenal endurance at his weight, and the one thing most big guys lack, he had the greatest heart of any heavyweight, including Holyfield. The shots he took from Foreman would have killed most people.

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          #164
          Originally posted by yrrej
          The greatest technical fighter by a long shot. Not much power, but the few skills he possessed in combination, like the jab and foot movement, were heads above the other guys and adequate to bring down better skill guys. He was probably the fastest guy for his size, phenomenal endurance at his weight, and the one thing most big guys lack, he had the greatest heart of any heavyweight, including Holyfield. The shots he took from Foreman would have killed most people.
          of course ali was far from technical. his style was specifically meant to confuse technical fighters with his awkwardly fast style of going side to side, moving the upper part of his body constantly.

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          • Gio
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            #165
            I personally believe that he was greatly overhyped. I take nothing away from him but he didnt impress me as much as people said he would.

            I do however love Ali as a boxing persona, I liked all the **** talking and how he conducted himself out of the ring. He seemed like a funny ass guy.

            I also like that he spoke up for his beliefs and never backed down. It take a lot of guts, especially in that era, when **** was all that great.

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            • butterfly1964
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              #166
              Originally posted by Gio
              I personally believe that he was greatly overhyped. I take nothing away from him but he didnt impress me as much as people said he would.

              I do however love Ali as a boxing persona, I liked all the **** talking and how he conducted himself out of the ring. He seemed like a funny ass guy.

              I also like that he spoke up for his beliefs and never backed down. It take a lot of guts, especially in that era, when **** was all that great.
              ali wasn't great? man you need to watch some of his fights.

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              • The_One77
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                #167
                Easily the greatest heavyweight of all time, he had the toughest opposition.

                If Ali wasn't there in the 60's, Liston would of ruled the division.
                If Ali wasn't there in the 70's, George Foreman would of ruled the division.
                Ali fought everyone, beat everyone by way of rematch (except at the end of his career)and had a heart of a lion.
                Never got knocked out in his whole career.

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                • Derranged
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Boxerdog
                  The thing that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to rate Dempsey is the absence of any fighters other than Caucasions on his resume'.
                  Thats some racist ****.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Derranged
                    Thats some racist ****.
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                      Hey Derranged.

                      That cow in your signature needs to be tranquilized and re-located.
                      haha, lol!

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