Could he have been the greatest Cruiserweight of all time?

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  • The Hammer
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    #21
    He might have been - it's possible.

    Look at his KOs against Moorer and Ruiz - imagine how dominant he would have been at cruiserweight with that kind of power.

    What people don't consider is the 14" reach disadvantage he was at when he fought Lewis, 70" to 84". Tua has a shorter reach than Floyd Mayweather - check BoxRec.
    Last edited by The Hammer; 08-26-2008, 09:34 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Tunney
      He might have been - it's possible.

      Look at his KOs against Moorer and Ruiz - imagine how dominant he would have been at cruiserweight with that kind of power.

      What people don't consider is the 12" reach disadvantage he was at when he fought Lewis, 72" to 84". Tua has a similar reach to Floyd Mayweather - check BoxRec.
      tua would never beat guys like lewis , wlad or vitali. they're too tall.

      but at cruiser tua would fight 5'11-6'3 guys. 6'2-6'3 is about the limit for tua to be competitive against.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        tua started at 204 in his first couple of fights.

        he later put on 10-15 lbs. or so to compete at heavy.

        people forget that tua fought a lot of fights at 215 or so.

        they only remember the 260 lb. tua that fought against lewis.

        you guys do realize that tua was about 230 at 35 yrs. old right?

        he can't be 220 in his 20's and cut weight to 200?

        I see Boof has been loaning you avatars.

        It's all in the ass to waist ratio, isn't it?

        LOL

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          #24
          Originally posted by jreckoning
          I see Boof has been loaning you avatars.

          It's all in the ass to waist ratio, isn't it?

          LOL
          boof?

          nah...... that's my girl alicia. you like? she has friends. i'll hook you up.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            that's not what i asked though , silence.

            i'm closing this thread......

            we can go back to talking about how much a ***** floyd is , how calzaghe slaps and how manny picks on old fighters.
            Mafafau could have had a chance at 200 pounds but that wasn't instated until 2003, up until then it was 190 pounds so I really don't think Tua could have made the weight.

            But if he did Mafafau could have possibly been great there.

            Originally posted by jreckoning
            Well when did the weight limit change to 200? He woulda had more of a chance though.
            He could train at 210-220 and drop to 200 for the weigh in and rehydrate to 210-215 so it's not out of the realm of possibility. He could walk around at 225-230 like Haye and some others did.
            2003. Too late probably.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              boof?

              nah...... that's my girl alicia. you like? she has friends. i'll hook you up.
              ok. cool.

              (JUST don't tell anyone, don't tell a soul)

              It reminds me of a contest one of my cousins had with his friends. Who could sleep with the biggest girl.
              My cousin actually won but was embarrassed to admit it.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Silencers
                Mafafau could have had a chance at 200 pounds but that wasn't instated until 2003, up until then it was 190 pounds so I really don't think Tua could have made the weight.

                But if he did Mafafau could have possibly been great there.



                2003. Too late probably.
                he was 204 naturally when he turned pro. he only became 215-220 lbs. out of design. he trained to be 215-220 to be more competitive at heavyweight.

                cutting from 204 to 190 is only 14 lbs. manny puts that on in his lightweight frame. 14 lbs. cutting is nothing for cruisers and heavies.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  tua would never beat guys like lewis , wlad or vitali. they're too tall.

                  but at cruiser tua would fight 5'11-6'3 guys. 6'2-6'3 is about the limit for tua to be competitive against.
                  Reach is even more important than height in boxing. You can't have an effective jab with short arms.

                  What's most amazing to me about Tua is how he's been at a reach disadvantage with ALL of his heavyweight opponents, yet he's almost always won.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Tunney
                    Reach is even more important than height in boxing. You can't have an effective jab with short arms.

                    What's most amazing to me about Tua is how he's been at a reach disadvantage with ALL of his heavyweight opponents, yet he's almost always won.
                    i agree. height is pretty important too. plus generally the taller you are the longer the reach as well.

                    the problem with fighting height though is punching upward lessens the power of your punch.

                    tua would literally have to jump to connect on wlad , lewis , vitali , etc. how is he gonna do that eating jabs from guys with 81-84 in. reach?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      he was 204 naturally when he turned pro. he only became 215-220 lbs. out of design. he trained to be 215-220 to be more competitive at heavyweight.

                      cutting from 204 to 190 is only 14 lbs. manny puts that on in his lightweight frame. 14 lbs. cutting is nothing for cruisers and heavies.
                      I'm pretty sure he could have made 190 early in his career but like most fighters, he would have grown out of the weight, eventually he'd be draining himself to make 190 and it could be affect him a lot.

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