Can any heavyweight right now beat Wladimir Klitschko?

[Alec900]

no.chagaev could make it close though :boobies:

[Banderivets]

It's funny how people talk about figheters having a punchers chance against Wlad.

Wlad has already faced the two kinds of heavy hitters that there are. A very fast puncher in Sanders, and a bull like pressure fighter in Peter (Peter from a punchers chance point of view was the most difficult fighter you could have thought of for Wlad) and no there arent guys the size and the power of Peter who also happen to move like Ali....

Now wtf kind of powerful boxer you have to be to beat a guy like Wlad? A guy like Sanders just couldnt do it again. A guy like Peter wont be able to do it either.

And dont forget that Wlad has never been counted out.

The only guy that could beat Wlad would be someone like his brother at this point in time, or the near future anyway.

To beat Wlad you need the guy to be the same size as Wlad or bigger, and simply be a better boxer then Wlad.

Now its not difficult to find a guy who will be a better boxer then Wlad. Its just that fact that Wlads "jab, straight right" is so well executed, along with his ability to clinch thanks to his strength that no mater how good a boxer you are, you cant do much against a well timed jab, backed up by a good straight right, if you ever stepped in the ring youd know that its hard to work around it.

If he ever regains his confidence then I dont see anyone beating him, regardles of how china chined you think he is.

Regardles, Wlad will dominate the division until he retires, and until he retires the division will be considered bad. Then when he retires, there will be no dominating force, there will be a bunch of guys fighting again and the division will be "brought back to life" because it will seem like there are a bunch of competative guys cause everyone is knocking out everyone.

[Guest]

It's funny how people talk about figheters having a punchers chance against Wlad.

Wlad has already faced the two kinds of heavy hitters that there are. A very fast puncher in Sanders, and a bull like pressure fighter in Peter (Peter from a punchers chance point of view was the most difficult fighter you could have thought of for Wlad) and no there arent guys the size and the power of Peter who also happen to move like Ali....

Now wtf kind of powerful boxer you have to be to beat a guy like Wlad? A guy like Sanders just couldnt do it again. A guy like Peter wont be able to do it either.

And dont forget that Wlad has never been counted out.

The only guy that could beat Wlad would be someone like his brother at this point in time, or the near future anyway.

To beat Wlad you need the guy to be the same size as Wlad or bigger, and simply be a better boxer then Wlad.

Now its not difficult to find a guy who will be a better boxer then Wlad. Its just that fact that Wlads "jab, straight right" is so well executed, along with his ability to clinch thanks to his strength that no mater how good a boxer you are, you cant do much against a well timed jab, backed up by a good straight right, if you ever stepped in the ring youd know that its hard to work around it.

If he ever regains his confidence then I dont see anyone beating him, regardles of how china chined you think he is.

Regardles, Wlad will dominate the division until he retires, and until he retires the division will be considered bad. Then when he retires, there will be no dominating force, there will be a bunch of guys fighting again and the division will be "brought back to life" because it will seem like there are a bunch of competative guys cause everyone is knocking out everyone.

Look Wlad is a great boxer but is it really inconceivable that a big puncher that's fairly quick can't have Wlad in La la land.
I mean Sanders did it at 37.
I can't believe there is not one guy on this earth that can bait him into a war and win it.

This is why people crack on Wlad. Every other heavy champ including Lewis had a war or two that they won, Wlad needs his.

[Zocalo]

Sadly I think Valuev has the best chance with his eh respectable jab and workrate.

[kenso]

This is why people crack on Wlad. Every other heavy champ including Lewis had a war or two that they won, Wlad needs his.

wlad isnt a war fighter, he is a keep you on the outside and school the **** out of you fighter.

fact is no one is good enough to put wlad into war mode, the only one i can think of is vitali klitschko, and they will never fight, so there.

wlad doesnt have to go to war to be exciting!

[Welter_Skelter]

Honestly, I don't think any can;

David Haye: Although we have not seen him at heavyweight yet (I don't care about Bonin, he was ****), I think he is just to open to beat Wlad. If he had a good chin, maybe, But he doesn't his chin is very bad. Wlad might be cautious early to avoid being caught by a big shot from Haye i see him winning by stoppage..

Samuel Peter: Wlad already beat him, beyond any doubt. And of the 3 knockdowns, only one should be counted anyway. You may say that Peter was green at the time, Wlad wasn't long off his loss to Brewster so was lower in confidence than he would be going into a rematch. I say Wlad wins a wide ass UD or late stoppage in a rematch

Ruslan Chagaev: Chagaev might cause Wlad some problems, But i think Wlad would just control the fight with his jab, similar to the Ibragimov fight. Chagaev has a good chin, so i don't know about a KO, but i am sure Wlad would win it.

Nicolay Valuev: I think Valuev would cause Wlad the most trouble out of the top heavies, He is taller than Wlad which is something new (Unless i have forgotten someone) and has recently began to improve on various areas. However, I still think he would be too slow and clumsy to beat Wlad and would lose on points.

Alexander Povetkin: Right now, I think he is just to green and way to open to right hands to make it 12 with Wlad, let alone beat him..

Sultan Ibragimov: Already beat him, I think a rematch would be pretty much the same except Wlad would probably step it up at some point and maybe stop Iggy

And so on...

Really, I can't see any heavyweight right now beating Wlad. Thoughts?

Until Wlad shows he can take a flush punch without falling apart.. All and Any of them will always have a chance

[Banderivets]

Look Wlad is a great boxer but is it really inconceivable that a big puncher that's fairly quick can't have Wlad in La la land.
I mean Sanders did it at 37.

Sanders was the first of that kind for Wlad. IT was simply a tough lesson for him. Wlad wouldnt let that happen to him again, not after that loss.

Wlad is no longer the fighter that he was (the Wlad that I was a huge fan of), I mean when he was still young, pre sanders....the man looked like a possible ATG......now I still like him because I know what he CAN/COULD fight like, if he ever does again, but I wouldnt be a big fan if I only knew Wlad for the last couple of fights that he was in.

Now sure there can be guys who can knock him out, decision him...butstill dont see him get counted out... he will get knocked down 5 times in a round adn the ref will stop the fight, but he wont get counted out.

But realisticly, I dont see anyone coming up that can get passed Wlad in the next 5 years. I might be wrong...its just my honest opinion.

No one can get passed that jab, and no one will be able to take him to war because of that jab....it'll be jab and clinch all night, but no war....You'll need to find someone much stronger then Wlad to take him to war.

[elfag]

besides vitali, no

[elfag]

Look Wlad is a great boxer but is it really inconceivable that a big puncher that's fairly quick can't have Wlad in La la land.
I mean Sanders did it at 37.
I can't believe there is not one guy on this earth that can bait him into a war and win it.

This is why people crack on Wlad. Every other heavy champ including Lewis had a war or two that they won, Wlad needs his.

Yeah anything can happen especially at heavyweights. But outside of any huge upsets I dont see anyone beating him. He rematched Brewster and schooled the **** out of him. He fought Peter and even though he was dropped he wasnt in any real danger. They were pressing for the Peter rematch real bad but I wouldnt expect Peter to do any better a second go around. So he has been in there with big punchers since and hasnt had trouble with them. The division is so weak there just arent any good punchers to stop him.

[Stickman]

Wladimir won by 3 rounds only. What does confidence got to do with it? Peter need to lose a few more pounds and he will beat Wladimir. It was not a wide UD

He won by 3 rounds in spite of having 3 KD's counted against him. That means Peter didn't win a single round other than the knockdown rounds. Peter wouldn't be able to outbox Klitchko if he had 300 years to "lose a few more pounds" and improve his skillset. He's just not talented enough. He's big, and he's got a great left hook. That's pretty much the sum total of his "talent".