Can any heavyweight right now beat Wladimir Klitschko?

[Left Hook Tua]

Those losses would be much more detrimental to his career if he hadn't learned from them, though...wouldn't you agree?

Nobody is unbeatable, ever, but I can't think of anyone right now that I'd give more than a 5% to 7% chance of a win against Klitchko.

i liked him better before the change.

all he had to do was pace himself a little bit better and learned to clinch better (which he still doesn't know how to do).

i don't know what the hell emmanuel did to him but he made wlad awful to watch.

all wlad needed to do was slow the pace a little bit and master the art of clinching while hurt.

[Derranged]

There's always a chance of someone landing a lucky headbutt, like Sanders hit him with in the first round of their fight.

I think he's too wise to get drugged again like he was in Brewster I, and his stamina has improved so what happened in the Purrity fight will never happen again.

But I think Wlad looked a little older in his past two fights. As he ages, the chance of him losing will increase.

Are u suggesting that the headbutt landed on Wladimir in that Sanders fight caused the KO? I know which headbutt you speak of, it cut his eye..... AFTER that monster counter left he landed. Wladimir got caught with a huge left walking in while thowing a hard overhand right. The headbutt did not look hard enough to contribute at all.

[Ray*]

i liked him better before the change.

all he had to do was pace himself a little bit better and learned to clinch better (which he still doesn't know how to do).

i don't know what the hell emmanuel did to him but he made wlad awful to watch.

all wlad needed to do was slow the pace a little bit and master the art of clinching while hurt.

couldnt have put it any better, steward made Wlad look awful nowadays, He was great to watch before even when he loses.

[Stickman]

i liked him better before the change.

Me too, but he probably likes himself better now, not much we can do.

all he had to do was pace himself a little bit better and learned to clinch better (which he still doesn't know how to do).

i don't know what the hell emmanuel did to him but he made wlad awful to watch.

all wlad needed to do was slow the pace a little bit and master the art of clinching while hurt.

I think Steward basically taught him to never, ever take a chance on getting caught. I disagree with that (many, if not most of us, do), but then I don't think an email from me will get Wlad to let his hands go more often, and to chance throwing that big-ass right hand with far greater frequency.

Like you said above, there were ways to keep from getting caught without shutting down completely and resorting to nothing more than a jab for 99% of your game, I think Steward was just seeing dollar signs and wanted the quickest and most efficient way to do it. Still, I've heard Manny say himself "He needs to get rid of this guy" when Wlad has gone 4 or 5 rounds and beaten someone silly with just his jab, but still hasn't thrown a single right hand or a hook. Who the hell knows?

[T-97]

I must say Wlad would be favoured against all but this thread makes it sound like he cant be beat but he looks so vulnerable at times. He is NOT Unbeatable

It's just my opinion But i don't see any guys beating him right now. He is just to big, strong and skilled IMO. If he had a solid chin, he would be unbeatable right now, But because of his chin he is deffinatly beatable,

I just don't see anyone to do it right not

[LITTLEPOOPAPUMP]

Wlads china chin has been exposed so many times it's unbelieveable that he is the best heavyweight the world has to offer. I think Haye will knock him the **** out, although I admit that I liked Haye better before he told the world that he had slept with men just like Wlad.

[The Surgeon]

It's just my opinion But i don't see any guys beating him right now. He is just to big, strong and skilled IMO. If he had a solid chin, he would be unbeatable right now, But because of his chin he is deffinatly beatable,

I just don't see anyone to do it right not

I Hear u man, but i gaive most of the guys i listed about a 40% chance against Wlad.
When Tyson was champion back in the day HE had the aura of bieng invinceable, he was a guy u just had to pickover every1 else and u didnt even give them a punchers chance coz his chin was sound too

[Stickman]

Wlads china chin has been exposed so many times it's unbelieveable that he is the best heavyweight the world has to offer. I think Haye will knock him the **** out, although I admit that I liked Haye better before he told the world that he had slept with men just like Wlad.

We're having a pretty rational and intelligent discussion here, and then you have to jump in. And that's fine, but rather than just state "Haye will knock him the **** out", why don't you elaborate a little? How exactly will he manage it? How will he get in past that jab, without getting caught with a hook or a right hand on the way in, and land that big shot to knock him the **** out?

P.S.
I don't know if Haye actually said that, but....who gives a ****? I like the song "Rocketman" by that little piano playing, hat wearing faggotty frend of the late Princess Diana....who cares if he'd rather suck a prick than drink a beer. As long as it ain't mine he's knobbing, I don't give a ****. Why should you give a flying **** if Haye has wet dreams about his opponents?

[T-97]

Wlads china chin has been exposed so many times it's unbelieveable that he is the best heavyweight the world has to offer. I think Haye will knock him the **** out, although I admit that I liked Haye better before he told the world that he had slept with men just like Wlad.

You killed my thread I hate you...

[Drunk Punch]

He would go into any fight at HW as overwhelming favourite but then it's a really poor division. Let's see how Haye does and maybe next year there will be someone worthy to challenge him.