Can any heavyweight right now beat Wladimir Klitschko?

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  • The Hammer
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    #111
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    Not counting the TWO BS knockdowns, Wlad won 11 rounds. No matter how you look at it, that's a beatdown. Peter has improved since then, but not enough to lead anyone to believe that the rematch would be any different.
    I agree.

    I think the more confident Wlad would defeat Peter even more easily now.

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    • T-97
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      #112
      Originally posted by Tunney
      I agree.

      I think the more confident Wlad would defeat Peter even more easily now.
      Yep,

      I think it would be a stoppage this time. Around Round 9-12.

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        #113
        To show how weak the HW division is; most people would agree David Haye (a cruiser who fought a bum at HW) is the best chance of Wlad losing
        Last edited by TRAVI$; 08-26-2008, 08:11 AM.

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          #114
          Originally posted by travi$
          To show how weak the HW division is; most people would agree David Haye (a cruiser who has never fought at HW) is the best chance of Wlad losing
          He has,

          He fought Tomasz "bum" Bonin

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            #115
            Originally posted by T-97
            He has,

            He fought Tomasz "bum" Bonin
            Corrected.

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              #116
              Originally posted by travi$
              Corrected.
              Although, Bonin was aweful and the fight only lasted like 1 minute. So he has no real Heavyweight Experience.

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                #117
                Originally posted by travi$
                To show how weak the HW division is; most people would agree David Haye (a cruiser who fought a bum at HW) is the best chance of Wlad losing
                I wouldn't say "most". Some few, perhaps. Haye, right now, wouldn't last 2 rounds against Klitchko. He has potential and innate ability, nothing more right now. Anybody who actually thinks Haye is a match for Klitchko right just hasn't really considered it much, or they're extremely biased in their opinion.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by T-97
                  Honestly, I don't think any can;

                  David Haye: Although we have not seen him at heavyweight yet (I don't care about Bonin, he was ****), I think he is just to open to beat Wlad. If he had a good chin, maybe, But he doesn't his chin is very bad. Wlad might be cautious early to avoid being caught by a big shot from Haye i see him winning by stoppage..

                  Samuel Peter: Wlad already beat him, beyond any doubt. And of the 3 knockdowns, only one should be counted anyway. You may say that Peter was green at the time, Wlad wasn't long off his loss to Brewster so was lower in confidence than he would be going into a rematch. I say Wlad wins a wide ass UD or late stoppage in a rematch

                  Ruslan Chagaev: Chagaev might cause Wlad some problems, But i think Wlad would just control the fight with his jab, similar to the Ibragimov fight. Chagaev has a good chin, so i don't know about a KO, but i am sure Wlad would win it.

                  Nicolay Valuev: I think Valuev would cause Wlad the most trouble out of the top heavies, He is taller than Wlad which is something new (Unless i have forgotten someone) and has recently began to improve on various areas. However, I still think he would be too slow and clumsy to beat Wlad and would lose on points.

                  Alexander Povetkin: Right now, I think he is just to green and way to open to right hands to make it 12 with Wlad, let alone beat him..

                  Sultan Ibragimov: Already beat him, I think a rematch would be pretty much the same except Wlad would probably step it up at some point and maybe stop Iggy

                  And so on...

                  Really, I can't see any heavyweight right now beating Wlad. Thoughts?


                  It is not easy to beat your opponent when you are afraid of him. The fact that these bums just stand there and get hit is proof that they are expecting to lose. They don't allow there other opponents pummel them, why should they let Klitschko?

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                    #119
                    Samuel Peter is the only fighter who can beat Wladimir now, knocked down his ass 3 times. Now more experience he will beat Peter but needs to lose a lot more fat.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Flawless
                      Samuel Peter is the only fighter who can beat Wladimir now, knocked down his ass 3 times. Now more experience he will beat Peter but needs to lose a lot more fat.
                      Only 1 of those KDs should have been counted IMO. Peter was green at the time, But Wlad had only fought 2 bums since his loss to Brewster and it wasn't long before that he had lost to Sanders, so his confidence was very low. I think a rematch would be pretty similar but with Peter getting stopped late in the fight.

                      EDIT- I think Chagaev and Valuev have a better chance than Peter.
                      Last edited by T-97; 08-26-2008, 09:04 AM.

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