greater:Vargas or Calzaghe(poll)

[sparked_85]

if he was hitting lacy with full force thats pretty sad cause he couldn't even hurt him. face it he only had good knockout percentage cause he was fighting bums and getting premature stoppages. i've seen some of his old "knockouts" they are all of the manfredo variety. last time he actually hurt someone was mario veit who has a glass jaw.

Hoooo hummmmmmmm, If you really have seen some of his old fights you wouldn't believe, I like how your throwing it out there.

Watch Sheika, Brewer (even though he didn't KO him), Mitchell, Mgertchian, Eubank, Woodhall.......erm pretty much any of his fights pre-Kabrary Salem. Joe is broken now simple as. He technique has been refined completely, he breaks his hands now and he is probably getting knocked out.

[daggum]

Hoooo hummmmmmmm, If you really have seen some of his old fights you wouldn't believe, I like how your throwing it out there.

Watch Sheika, Brewer (even though he didn't KO him), Mitchell, Mgertchian, Eubank, Woodhall.......erm pretty much any of his fights pre-Kabrary Salem. Joe is broken now simple as. He technique has been refined completely, he breaks his hands now and he is probably getting knocked out.

wrong! he can't be knocked out. he has an iron chin or so i've heard from the fanatical windmill society. not like he uses his hands anyway. he didn't hit hopkins and still "won"

[sparked_85]

wrong! he can't be knocked out. he has an iron chin or so i've heard from the fanatical windmill society. not like he uses his hands anyway. he didn't hit hopkins and still "won"

Roy Jones could knock Calzaghe out!

Joe Calzaghe does have a very good chin though. Hopkins didn't hurt him nor did Kessler, you know when Joe is hurt because he gets really really really wild and throws any restraint out the window and fights with his chin in the air (see Mitchell), I always thought that would get him knocked out. Jones could hurt him, Calzaghe will get wild and could get KO'd, definetely could happen.

[The Surgeon]

more like 35, And it's not like Calzaghe struggled against him, he did what he was supposed to do. It was also a unexpierenced Calzaghe also.

No i just checked he was actually 200!


Good win none the less i guess

[theghost#1]

No i just checked he was actually 200!


Good win none the less i guess

Damn was he really 200. LOL Calzaghe was probably 175.

[Left Hook Tua]

No i just checked he was actually 200!


Good win none the less i guess

really?

at first i thought you were exaggerating a bit......

you learn something new everyday.

[The Surgeon]

really?

at first i thought you were exaggerating a bit......

you learn something new everyday.

Yup everydays a skool day when The Surgeons in town!

[KILLA RIGHT]

Is this a joke? Joe by far

[Tha_Greatest]

Joe's longevity will get him in no doubt but i respect El Feroz more!
HE is the guy who stepped up and challenged the best fighters in the world, his record has quality operaters like Winky, Quartey and to a lesser extent Yori Boy Campas who was 72 -2 at the time and Raul Marquez in the win coloum, and this all within 19 fights!!! Then he has the great battles with Tito Oscar and Sugar.
Its widely thought that Tito ruined him and look what he was still capable of after that! He could have sat on some bogus title like joe did for years but he sought out the best opposition in the game!


But Joe staying undefeated all this time and having a few good names on his record will hav to get the nod as the greater

right now im trying to stay neutral on this thread, just reading the post but you have had the most solid post in this thread, i voted vargas by marginal and you calzaghe but id think calzaghe would have a upperhand by most others poll vote, depending on your opinion of cal or vargs opposition like good victories and comparison in the big time opponents, big time victories.
You have a solid neutral vote so you are probably have the best opinion, no doubt



For your good post, you are a winner, todays your big day i will send Floyd to your house to lick your ass and give you headhave a great day, tell a freind and run a train on floyd

[The Surgeon]

right now im trying to stay neutral on this thread, just reading the post but you have had the most solid post in this thread, i voted vargas by marginal and you calzaghe but id think calzaghe would have a upperhand by most others poll vote, depending on your opinion of cal or vargs opposition like good victories and comparison in the big time opponents, big time victories.
You have a solid neutral vote so you are probably have the best opinion, no doubt



For your good post, you are a winner, todays your big day i will send Floyd to your house to lick your ass and give you headhave a great day, tell a freind and run a train on floyd

Cheers! Whoo Hoo!

Cant u hook me up with Miguel instead - Now theres a Pretty Boy! lol