Roy is NOT shot

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Great post and people will have to agree with you when he beats calz, although everyone will disagree, but i dont believe that cal is a elite fighter.

calz is ranked top 5 p4p.

[THE REED]

Considering what he used to be, and what he is now, I'd consider him shot. Maybe still superior to anyone but the very elite in his weight classes, but when you think about how seemingly invincible he used to be, yeah, he's shot. I mean, come on, Glencoffe Johnson KO'd Roy...I like Johnson, he's got a fantastic work ethic, he's always in shape, but his speed (compared to Roy even now) is abysmal. Just a few years ago, he wouldn't have landed anything but a few jabs throughout 12 rounds against Roy, who would've made him look like an amature.

And I don't think it's all caused by Roy's age, either. I think alot of it was caused by him coming down in weight too far, too fast, to take on Tarver. You lose that much muscle mass after wearing it for so long, it does bad things to you. He should've tried to get Tarver to come to a higher catch weight, maybe a 185 to 190 pound cap. 175 was just too much. Tarver is just arrogant enough he probably would've agreed.

if roy fought at a catchweight against tarver in the first fight.. he wouldnt of completed what he set out to do... come back down to light heavyweight and match bob fitsimmons record


after he regained the LHW championship... that was it.. legacy completed, sealed, stamped... the rest is history.

[Truth]

i'll be honest i watched the glen johnson/jones fight this morning...that fight made me question my prediction. But I'm still picking roy, i think he handles pressure better now. he expects it in every fight.

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i'll be honest i watched the glen johnson/jones fight this morning...that fight made me question my prediction. But I'm still picking roy, i think he handles pressure better now. he expects it in every fight.

id rather be 39 and in shape, then 35, weight drained, and a victim of a ko 4 months ago..

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id rather be 39 and in shape, then 35, weight drained, and a victim of a ko 4 months ago..

yeah. thats how i rationalize it too...

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yeah. thats how i rationalize it too...

on top of that... a 3 fight win streak, and a good 24 rounds in the last year...

compared to taking the first loss of your career by knockout, and then trying to fight 4 months later by a pressure fighter

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on top of that... a 3 fight win streak, and a good 24 rounds in the last year...

compared to taking the first loss of your career by knockout, and then trying to fight 4 months later by a pressure fighter

yeah, i think roy had the idea of getting knocked out on his mind the whole time against Glen Johnson. So he didn't fight like himself, he wasn't ready to fight at that point. Plus Hurricane Katrina ruined his farm and he had to move his training camp.

Honestly I saw alot of good things in the Hanshaw fight. There were alot of flashes of the old Roy in that fight. IMO. Roy needs to come into the Calzaghe fight warmed up. Roy is better after round 3 now, he needs to get a sweat going...thats one thing i've noticed in his past three fights.

[THE REED]

yeah, i think roy had the idea of getting knocked out on his mind the whole time against Glen Johnson. So he didn't fight like himself, he wasn't ready to fight at that point. Plus Hurricane Katrina ruined his farm and he had to move his training camp.

Honestly I saw alot of good things in the Hanshaw fight. There were alot of flashes of the old Roy in that fight. IMO. Roy needs to come into the Calzaghe fight warmed up. Roy is better after round 3 now, he needs to get a sweat going...thats one thing i've noticed in his past three fights.

ive noticed the same exact thing... after 3 rounds he gets stronger to me, and he doesnt fade near the endo f the fight like everyone else seems to think....

say what you want but hanshaw made roy work hard for 12 rounds... which was a good thing... roy got some good practice in on the ropes, and instead of laying on the ropes covering up and getting punched like in the tarver fights... he was actually practiving rolling/blocking and countering..

in the tito fight he practiced more center of the ring boxing, and some of the old combinations he used to throw...

for 39, you cant be anything but impressed

[larryx]

roy was never shot just gun shy//look at tarver 3 when he let his hands go it wasnt even a fight//look at the johnson fight when he let his hands go johnson couldnt do ****//roy will ko joe cause joes punching power isnt a threat and roy is hungrey for that top spot again!!!!!its on now

[Truth]

ive noticed the same exact thing... after 3 rounds he gets stronger to me, and he doesnt fade near the endo f the fight like everyone else seems to think....

say what you want but hanshaw made roy work hard for 12 rounds... which was a good thing... roy got some good practice in on the ropes, and instead of laying on the ropes covering up and getting punched like in the tarver fights... he was actually practiving rolling/blocking and countering..

in the tito fight he practiced more center of the ring boxing, and some of the old combinations he used to throw...

for 39, you cant be anything but impressed

Roy Jones Jr. at 40 is still a good fighter. Roy Jones Jr. 20's-early 30's was a great fighter.

yeah he faught off the ropes against Hanshaw, he didn't just lay there.