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According to this site, Calzaghe should get loades of credit for the Jones win

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  • #31
    Originally posted by iBox4Real View Post
    i dont think half of us are in denial........at least im not

    i'd just like to see Roy pull it off.......if he doesnt of well, my worlds not crashing down by any means

    now if Joe fought and beat Roy in his prime........thats another case entirely
    But if Joe wins he will be creating an UPSET in your mind.


    As you THINK Jones will win


    Now surely someone who creates an upset should get alot of respect

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    • #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      After months of dissing Roy for being overrated, ducking fighters (particularly European ones), saying he's shot, etc. fans of Calzaghe finally realize that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. So now, they're gonna hype up Roy as much as they can and say stuff like "Joe's old too!" or "Jones hasn't really aged" so they can pretend Calzaghe would've beaten him at any point in their careers and is, in fact, the greater fighter.

      Like I said before, you guys better hope Jones puts up a damn good fight. Because if he comes in looking like a scared/shot fighter, it will hurt Calzaghe in the end. Not quite the way you wanna go out.
      Lets see...

      Is Calzaghe old? Yes, he plainly doesn't have all that he had in his younger days physically, but is he anything like as old in boxing terms as Roy? No he isn't. Roy is shot and if 50% of the Calzaghe that fought Kessler shows up he should beat him easily.

      Do I hope Roy puts up a good fight? Yes, I want to see a good one. Will that make me claim Calzaghe is 'greater' than Roy? No, Roy won titles in multiple weight divisions and fought a higher standard of opposition than Joe. If Joe beats Roy easily will that make me say he would have beaten a prime Roy? No, this isn't prime Roy, and besides, I already think Calzaghe might have beaten a prime Jones!

      Do I think retiring after Roy will hurt Joe? Only in the eyes of those who already dislike him. I already rate Calzaghe as a great boxer and beating Pavlik, Tarver or Dawson wouldn't show me anything I don't already know. Would I like him to fight on though? Yes, I would, I like seeing him win fights, but I don't think he will ever do enough to please his detractors.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Wade Wilson 50 View Post
        But what if he bobbed and weaved, and avoided Ponderous blows? Gorillas can't box, you know....
        Oh he gets a KO for sure

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Wade Wilson 50 View Post
          But what if he bobbed and weaved, and avoided Ponderous blows? Gorillas can't box, you know....
          .........stop.................stop

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GreatJoe View Post
            But if Joe wins he will be creating an UPSET in your mind.


            As you THINK Jones will win


            Now surely someone who creates an upset should get alot of respect
            i see what your getting at bro........i really do

            if Joe pulls it off it might not be a upset in a universal term but it could be a upset in MY mind tho

            but thats not really case.......i'd just like to see Roy pull it off and show people he still has a great fight left in him.

            I respect Joe, but i'd respect him more if he went after these fighters earlier in their careers (i.e. Hopkins & Jones).........OR if he would have went ahead with the Kelly Pavlik bout

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            • #36
              Originally posted by iBox4Real View Post
              I respect Joe, but i'd respect him more if he went after these fighters earlier in their careers (i.e. Hopkins & Jones).........OR if he would have went ahead with the Kelly Pavlik bout
              That about sums it up.

              Whether its his fault or not, those fights didn't happen when they should've. Beating them now won't do it. I suppose James Toney is next on his hit list :/

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              • #37
                Originally posted by iBox4Real View Post
                i see what your getting at bro........i really do

                if Joe pulls it off it might not be a upset in a universal term but it could be a upset in MY mind tho

                but thats not really case.......i'd just like to see Roy pull it off and show people he still has a great fight left in him.

                I respect Joe, but i'd respect him more if he went after these fighters earlier in their careers (i.e. Hopkins & Jones).........OR if he would have went ahead with the Kelly Pavlik bout
                So would I, so would I.

                But a loss for Calzaghe against a shot Jones would be bad.

                a loss for Jones against a decent Calzaghe would be ok.

                Jones IS one of my favourite fighters of all time, but I think it's Calzaghes time now.

                They are both my favourite fighters, just I hope Calzaghe wins as people will look at his legacy badly if he loses it, where as Jones was shot anyway.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  That about sums it up.

                  Whether its his fault or not, those fights didn't happen when they should've. Beating them now won't do it. I suppose James Toney is next on his hit list :/
                  LOL

                  I agree with it in part.
                  He should of took Pav on not jones
                  he would of gained a lot more respect.

                  Plus in his auto bio his saying exactly what u guys are saying
                  that he would never fight roy jones now cuz his a shell of himself
                  and then a year later he fights him...
                  Dont like a man that goes back on his word spells a weak character

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    That about sums it up.

                    Whether its his fault or not, those fights didn't happen when they should've. Beating them now won't do it. I suppose James Toney is next on his hit list :/


                    Originally posted by GreatJoe View Post
                    So would I, so would I.

                    But a loss for Calzaghe against a shot Jones would be bad.

                    a loss for Jones against a decent Calzaghe would be ok.

                    Jones IS one of my favourite fighters of all time, but I think it's Calzaghes time now.

                    They are both my favourite fighters, just I hope Calzaghe wins as people will look at his legacy badly if he loses it, where as Jones was shot anyway.
                    this is true..........and when you put it like that i see where your coming from.........if Joe loses this it'll be all bad, and a long road back as far as legacys concerned for Joe

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                    • #40
                      I think it has more to do with this site realizing Calzaghe is nowhere near as good as he's been made out to be. Roy is shot. Most people realize that. They just think Calzaghe sucks is all.

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