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  • #31
    lol @ people sayin he got what he deserved. mother****as all over the globe eat dogs. Should they be eatin???

    Look, I'm not saying dog fighting is a good thing or not, I really don't care, but put things in perspective a bit - during the time g-man was growing up, his neighborhood was big on dog fighting. So big in fact it wasn't uncommon for hundreds of people to watch a dog fight with $100,000+ on the line. that's the way it was. Was that right? It doesn't matter and it shouldn't concern you, that's the environment HE was brought into, he was raised into that. Dog fight, **** fighting (Roy Jones anyone???), etc. are cultural things. If you're born into it, chances are you'd be into it too. no matter how hardcore peta ur ass might be.

    But, there was a soft side to g-man. He loved his dogs, especially deuce and when he lost a fight, he cried and took it home and tried hard to fix him up. He was depressed for weeks when his dog died. Who knows maybe that's when he realized he didn't want to be involved in that **** no more.



    From ESPN for further reading:

    He's done a few things he never imagined doing. The first time he went to a dogfight with McClellan, he felt sick and scared.

    "Then," he says, "I kind of got into it.

    "I don't know … it's just a competition, and it's like a race, a fight. You'd be surprised at what my eyes have seen."

    Johnson said he saw nine or 10 dogfights in all, some lasting 45 minutes, others so bloody McClellan walked out looking as if he'd been in a gunfight. Once, after McClellan's dog lost, Johnson watched his friend coldly pull a 9 mm gun out of his pocket and fire into the dog's head.

    And then he saw a much gentler side of McClellan when it came to Deuce. When the dog was losing, McClellan screamed to stop the fight.

    "He gave the man his money, picked Deuce up and threw him over his shoulder," Johnson says. "He was crying all the way home, petting his dog, saying he would never do it again.

    "He was driving a green Mercedes Benz. Blood was all over the car. Deuce's neck was tore out, and you know what Gerald did? He sewed his neck up himself with a needle and thread. And that was the last dogfight I went to with Gerald."


    [...]

    The town of Freeport has a Farm and Fleet store, an outdated Wal-Mart and a sleepy-looking high school with a not-so-menacing nickname of "The Pretzels."

    Signs around town remind strangers that Freeport was the site of a Lincoln-Douglas debate. On a sunny summer afternoon, the downtown is quiet, save for the sound of birds chirping and folks stopping to say hello.

    But up the railroad tracks, on the east side, lies a darker history. Penelton says they had dogfights there in the early to mid-1990s, drawing as many as 150 people, throwing around more than $10,000. The woods and cornfields provided the perfect cover; the Pecatonica River gave them a place to wash the bloody dogs after their battles.

    "Wasn't nobody going to say nothing," Penelton says. "We had all the money."

    A big misconception of dogfighting, Goodwin says, is that it's rooted in the South. But places such as Detroit and Chicago long have been considered hot spots, and Penelton says he's seen as much as $200,000 wagered at a dogfight in Detroit.

    "If people found out how big it was, they'd be shocked," Penelton says. "These guys come to a dogfight like they're going to a beauty pageant or the Oscars. That's how they dress up, diamonds and bling bling. You'd think Michael Jackson or Stevie Wonder was showing up.

    "Lots of athletes. Lots of professional boxers, a lot of basketball players. I've seen quite a few of them, too. I don't want to put a name out there."

    Penelton, who also boxes and trains, says McClellan got his first taste of dogfighting when he was 11 or 12 and watched a group of kids try to get a wild dog to fight. It escalated to McClellan's owning six dogs as an adult, and limiting his lifestyle.

    full article:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2904695
    Last edited by ИATAS; 08-22-2008, 01:18 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by natas206 View Post
      lol @ people sayin he got what he deserved. mother****as all over the globe eat dogs. Should they be eatin???

      Look, I'm not saying dog fighting is a good thing or not, I really don't care, but put things in perspective a bit - during the time g-man was growing up, his neighborhood was big on dog fighting. So big in fact it wasn't uncommon for hundreds of people to watch a dog fight with $100,000+ on the line. that's the way it was. Was that right? It doesn't matter and it shouldn't concern you, that's the environment HE was brought into, he was raised into that. Dog fight, **** fighting, etc. are cultural things. If you're born into it, chances are you'd be into it too. no matter how hardcore peta ur ass might be.

      But, there was a soft side to g-man. He loved his dogs, especially deuce and when he lost a fight, he cried and took it home and tried hard to fix him up. He was depressed for weeks when his dog died. Who knows maybe that's when he realized he didn't want to be involved in that **** no more.



      From ESPN for further reading:

      He's done a few things he never imagined doing. The first time he went to a dogfight with McClellan, he felt sick and scared.

      "Then," he says, "I kind of got into it.

      "I don't know … it's just a competition, and it's like a race, a fight. You'd be surprised at what my eyes have seen."

      Johnson said he saw nine or 10 dogfights in all, some lasting 45 minutes, others so bloody McClellan walked out looking as if he'd been in a gunfight. Once, after McClellan's dog lost, Johnson watched his friend coldly pull a 9 mm gun out of his pocket and fire into the dog's head.

      And then he saw a much gentler side of McClellan when it came to Deuce. When the dog was losing, McClellan screamed to stop the fight.

      "He gave the man his money, picked Deuce up and threw him over his shoulder," Johnson says. "He was crying all the way home, petting his dog, saying he would never do it again.

      "He was driving a green Mercedes Benz. Blood was all over the car. Deuce's neck was tore out, and you know what Gerald did? He sewed his neck up himself with a needle and thread. And that was the last dogfight I went to with Gerald."


      [...]

      The town of Freeport has a Farm and Fleet store, an outdated Wal-Mart and a sleepy-looking high school with a not-so-menacing nickname of "The Pretzels."

      Signs around town remind strangers that Freeport was the site of a Lincoln-Douglas debate. On a sunny summer afternoon, the downtown is quiet, save for the sound of birds chirping and folks stopping to say hello.

      But up the railroad tracks, on the east side, lies a darker history. Penelton says they had dogfights there in the early to mid-1990s, drawing as many as 150 people, throwing around more than $10,000. The woods and cornfields provided the perfect cover; the Pecatonica River gave them a place to wash the bloody dogs after their battles.

      "Wasn't nobody going to say nothing," Penelton says. "We had all the money."

      A big misconception of dogfighting, Goodwin says, is that it's rooted in the South. But places such as Detroit and Chicago long have been considered hot spots, and Penelton says he's seen as much as $200,000 wagered at a dogfight in Detroit.

      "If people found out how big it was, they'd be shocked," Penelton says. "These guys come to a dogfight like they're going to a beauty pageant or the Oscars. That's how they dress up, diamonds and bling bling. You'd think Michael Jackson or Stevie Wonder was showing up.

      "Lots of athletes. Lots of professional boxers, a lot of basketball players. I've seen quite a few of them, too. I don't want to put a name out there."

      Penelton, who also boxes and trains, says McClellan got his first taste of dogfighting when he was 11 or 12 and watched a group of kids try to get a wild dog to fight. It escalated to McClellan's owning six dogs as an adult, and limiting his lifestyle.

      full article:
      http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2904695
      He likely saw it as an extension of his own life (and the deadly aspect of the competition involved in both) and a measure of the value of the animals he raised and cared about, just as one judges a boxer on his record, skills, and heart.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tengoshi View Post
        He likely saw it as an extension of his own life (and the deadly aspect of the competition involved in both) and a measure of the value of the animals he raised and cared about, just as one judges a boxer on his record, skills, and heart.
        very good way of *****g it and I agree. I mean, we aren't much different if you really think about it - we watch two men fight and risk injury and death for our entertainment.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tengoshi View Post
          Who knows how he was towards people, it seemed in the article like his cousin was saying he was a decent guy to be around, and didn't direct any of that violence towards people outside of the ring. But factors in his upbringing and the culturally acceptable standards of his environment led him into an activity many (including myself) find distasteful. Without that streak in him he probably would not have been a successful fighter, as his fighting seemed to reflect it. Drug dealers sell products that destroy people's minds and bodies, but are rarely criticized on the same level. Usually they are also products of their environment. Jones and many others (Pacman, Morales, etc.) have been deeply involved in ****fighting, but people get overly sentimental about dogs because of their close association to people's lives in general. That sentimentality is also the product of a certain environment. This is a boxing forum, and McClellan, like many others who have done questionable things outside the ring, should be judged here as a boxer. More so than others, whatever he has done in the past he certainly has little personal connection with it anymore in the state he is currently in.

          I don't care if he was good towards other people. He was sadistic to animals, and to me that is intolerable. People involved with ****fighting don't abduct innocent animals to use as bait for their fighting chickens. Personally I have more compassion for drug dealers. They are simply supplying a demand that would still exist without them. Once again, I'm not happy about what happened to McClellan. But I don't feel any pity for him either. What happened to him was bad for boxing, but society is better off without him IMO.

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          • #35
            thats some ****ed up **** there, no one deserved what happened to him i guess, but its hard not to feel a sense of justice...paticuarly as a guy who likes animals

            even though he only killed animals, only a matter of time before that sick **** started on humans, its been proven that many serial killers ,rapists etc start abusing animals before humans....

            but i still feel bad for the guy

            but like, its just awful what he did as dogs are mostly (not all) good animals by nature, its usually humans or some other environmental factor that makes a dog vicious...so its hard to feel sympathy for him wait thats contradicting myself lol...complicated issue i guess, especially reading that full article on ESPN that paints him in a different light
            Last edited by KostyaTszyu44; 08-22-2008, 01:55 AM.

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            • #36
              no person deserved that **** unless he's hitler....


              and besides you think the boxer's you worship today are perfect? hell i'm willing to bet most boxer's have some sketlons in there cloest

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              • #37
                Well dogs are mens best friend but we got places that don't kill **** cows and all types of **** people eat. So its all about where your from and Hellz no he ain't deserve that ****.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  Boxing may miss him, but I don't. Bad karma smacked him real hard. I only feel bad for his family who is stuck taking care of this lowlife.
                  I agree with you man.

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                  • #39
                    McClellan was the original Michael Vick....

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Post

                      even though he only killed animals, only a matter of time before that sick **** started on humans, its been proven that many serial killers ,rapists etc start abusing animals before humans....
                      this is waaaaaaaaaaay out of line comment right here. To even suggest such a thing is absolutely absurd. Listen, G-man was involved in the sport of fighting dogs, he didn't go around dissecting animals and cooking their brains in frying pans while listening to Beethoven, ok? Serial killers kill animals when their young because they have a desire to kill, g-man fought dogs as a sport. HUGE differences there comrade, huge.

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