Gerald McClellan was a bad man

[Miburo]

you are basically ruling out Morals because the "**** happened years ago" so it must be good right? life was ****ed up back then..there is no need to make it ****ed up today and call it normal, It's only when you succumb to it that it becomes normal.

Yes, because morals are obviously universal and not culturally determined. That's why all the world is the same. Or is it only the "civilized" world? Oh wait, there are differences there too. Damn, how do we account for all these supposed imperfections? I guess if only people were more intelligent history could have been done away with and these obvious morals would have been agreed upon. Since all those evil people created the foundations of civilization civilization itself must be evil too I suppose, so we should really start over. Luckily we're so superior now that we can understand these things.

[OTSS]

who said I knew anything about science?

Touche.....

[them_apples]

Yes, because morals are obviously universal and not culturally determined. That's why all the world is the same. Or is it only the "civilized" world? Oh wait, there are differences there too. Damn, how do we account for all these supposed imperfections? I guess if only people were more intelligent history could have been done away with and these obvious morals would have been agreed upon. Since all those evil people created the foundations of civilization civilization itself must be evil too I suppose, so we should really start over. Luckily we're so superior now that we can understand these things.

I'm not going to get into an argument with you..you sound like the type of person who equates life on the same level as a brick or chunk of meat.

[Miburo]

I'm not going to get into an argument with you..you sound like the type of person who equates life on the same level as a brick or chunk of meat.

Not even remotely. Aren't those like yourself cheering on the fact that McClellan was injured horribly while giving his all to the craft, lauding the outcomes of karma (which is nonexistent), those who take life cheaply? As others pointed out, McClellan was human, and people act like he was a mass murderer. To rebut - you sound like the kind of person who takes all of these things to be obvious. I also don't argue, and my point was simply that they're not. The outrage that many express towards McClellan, whose circumstances they can't possibly relate to, is largely conditioned by their own lust for revenge against those who offend their sensibilities. Who is more cruel I wonder? Again, I don't condone what he did at all, but I find the glee many on here take in his current situation, and what they attribute it to, fairly disgusting.

[Scott9945]

Not even remotely. Aren't those like yourself cheering on the fact that McClellan was injured horribly while giving his all to the craft, lauding the outcomes of karma (which is nonexistent), those who take life cheaply? As others pointed out, McClellan was human, and people act like he was a mass murderer. To rebut - you sound like the kind of person who takes all of these things to be obvious. I also don't argue, and my point was simply that they're not. The outrage that many express towards McClellan, whose circumstances they can't possibly relate to, is largely conditioned by their own lust for revenge against those who offend their sensibilities. Who is more cruel I wonder? Again, I don't condone what he did, but I find the glee many on here take in his current situation, and what they attribute it to, fairly disgusting.

I don't think that anyone was taking glee to what happened to him. More like it's harder to feel too badly for someone who was such a piece of **** as a person.

[them_apples]

I don't think that anyone was taking glee to what happened to him. More like it's harder to feel too badly for someone who was such a piece of **** as a person.

I know..I don't get whats wrong with "Tengoshi" It's like he's a robot or something with no feeling other than a book of facts and bull**** that he considers the same thing.

people like him piss me off royally

I agree I don't see how you can feel bad for Mcclellan when all he did was stir up **** in his own life, he had it coming.

[Miburo]

I don't think that anyone was taking glee to what happened to him. More like it's harder to feel too badly for someone who was such a piece of **** as a person.

Who knows how he was towards people, it seemed in the article like his cousin was saying he was a decent guy to be around, and didn't direct any of that violence towards people outside of the ring. But factors in his upbringing and the culturally acceptable standards of his environment led him into an activity many (including myself) find distasteful. Without that streak in him he probably would not have been a successful fighter, as his fighting seemed to reflect it. Drug dealers sell products that destroy people's minds and bodies, but are rarely criticized on the same level. Usually they are also products of their environment. Jones and many others (Pacman, Morales, etc.) have been deeply involved in ****fighting, but people get overly sentimental about dogs because of their close association to people's lives in general. That sentimentality is also the product of a certain environment. This is a boxing forum, and McClellan, like many others who have done questionable things outside the ring, should be judged here as a boxer. More so than others, whatever he has done in the past he certainly has little personal connection with it anymore in the state he is currently in.

[sugarshanenas]

yea i read about this awhile back its ****ed up

[Miburo]

I know..I don't get whats wrong with "Tengoshi" It's like he's a robot or something with no feeling other than a book of facts and bull**** that he considers the same thing.

people like him piss me off royally

I agree I don't see how you can feel bad for Mcclellan when all he did was stir up **** in his own life, he had it coming.

I guess there's something wrong with calmly putting forth arguments instead of getting worked up over everything then. But you're welcome to feel that way about me if it makes you feel better.

[them_apples]

I guess there's something wrong with calmly putting forth arguments instead of getting worked up over everything then. But you're welcome to feel that way about me if it makes you feel better.

your being so polite..not making this easy..


It's ok, I respect your opinion