RING Magazine: "Mayweather Doesn't Crack the Top 25 Greatest Ever"

[mrpain81]

*waits for the Floyd ball swingers to start committing suicide*

[Xyei]

Yeah, I agree.

You think he'll come back?

I hope so man but I'm really not sure. It won't be for a while if he does.. The way he's talking, it seems like he doesn't want to. Time will tell..

[Allucard]

We can almost certainly agree that Mayweather doesn't belong in the top 10, hallowed ground reserved for names like Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Louis, Pep, Greb, ect. And the opinion here is that for all his remarkable talent, his body of work isn't enough to crack the top 25 either. Looking at that 19-42 range, the upper end just doesn't seem right given the talent pools of the past.

So our final declaration is this: if Mayweather never fights again, he ranks somewhere in the second 25 in boxing history, pound-for-pound, taking into account both his ability and his accomplishment. "Pretty Boy" and his devoted fans may not want be happy to hear it, and the Floyd haters probably won't like it either, but that's where he belongs.

Eric Raskin, The Ring Magazine, October 2008

What to expect of a Publication owned by the Golden Boy himself, Oscar De La Hoya?
I beg to differ, i think Mayweather easly makes top 10 all time and skill wise he is definitely top 5 in my book with Robbinson, Jones and a few others too close to call.

[Boofdatruth]

Absolutely, he does not belong in "greatest ever" but he will make it to the HOF. A fighter retiring in his prime with meaningless oponents(besides a 34 yo DLH who almost beat him) does not deserve an ATG spot. He needs to comeback and accomplish, great things, not great money. But im sure mayweather doesent give one bit of a **** being an all time great.

How do you know that Floyd doesn't care about being an ATG?

[¡VIVA MEXICO!]

How do you know that Floyd doesn't care about being an ATG?

look at his resume and he retired in his prime...............

[Boofdatruth]

What to expect of a Publication owned by the Golden Boy himself, Oscar De La Hoya?
I beg to differ, i think Mayweather easly makes top 10 all time and skill wise he is definitely top 5 in my book with Robbinson, Jones and a few others too close to call.

That is why I don't respect the Ring magazine anymore and only look for old stories when I do read the magazine.

[Boofdatruth]

look at his resume and he retired in his prime...............

No, I asked how do you know Floyd doesn't care? This is an answer where you can't really give an answer. You just give his actions lol. You don't live in floyd's mind.

[Brandish]

What to expect of a Publication owned by the Golden Boy himself, Oscar De La Hoya?
I beg to differ, i think Mayweather easly makes top 10 all time and skill wise he is definitely top 5 in my book with Robbinson, Jones and a few others too close to call.

great post..just alot of jealosy all around.. people expect floyd to "clean out" weltwerweight, well did duran clean out 160, what about 154, or even 147. what about ray leonard did he clean out 168 or even 175.

none of those guys cleaned out their fourth weight class, which is a minomer since there will alaways be someone to fight. hence when floyd went to 147 the champ was judah, then baldomir, and floyd beat themm both. defended his wbc title against hatton and defeated one of the best 154 fighters in hoya.

there was no need to legacy wise to continue fighting the cotto's, and margarito's of the world who had not accomplished anything career wise.

the fact reamins ww is floyd's 4th weight class name one guy in the top 25 that cleaned out their 4th weight class

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

We can almost certainly agree that Mayweather doesn't belong in the top 10, hallowed ground reserved for names like Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Louis, Pep, Greb, ect. And the opinion here is that for all his remarkable talent, his body of work isn't enough to crack the top 25 either. Looking at that 19-42 range, the upper end just doesn't seem right given the talent pools of the past.

So our final declaration is this: if Mayweather never fights again, he ranks somewhere in the second 25 in boxing history, pound-for-pound, taking into account both his ability and his accomplishment. "Pretty Boy" and his devoted fans may not want be happy to hear it, and the Floyd haters probably won't like it either, but that's where he belongs.

Eric Raskin, The Ring Magazine, October 2008

Ring Magazine and ESPN both have Mayweather as a top 50 ATG. I guess there are worse things in life.

[nozorok]

He would just make it into the Top 50 ATGs if he would only face a few of the best Welters. As it stands now he's not even in the top 50.