Which Fight was the Fluke???

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  • number6
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    #21
    Originally posted by Melly-Mel
    both actually. i don't think quintana could put on another performance as well as the 1st, and i don't think will gets a ko in 1 round again either.
    I kind of agree with this, although i dont see either as a fluke i dont see either fighter winning in the maner that they did the first time round.

    If i was to pick 1 out as a more fortunate result, i would lean towards the 2nd. Quintana may have just been caught cold in that fight, but the first fight went the distance.

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    • adrsan84
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      #22
      Originally posted by Clegg
      According to the UK media (which is often wrong, to be fair), Paul Williams is going to fight Michael Jennings next.

      Some info for you:

      Age: 30
      Record: 33-1(16KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
      Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
      Promoter: Frank Warren
      Of his first 18 opponents, only one had a winning record

      You remember Gary Lockett?

      Age: 31
      Record: 30-1(20KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
      Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
      Promoter: Frank Warren
      Of his first 18 opponents, 13 had a winning record

      He's basically Gary Lockett, but his opposition is worse, he hasn't avenged his defeat, and he doesn't punch as hard. And he's fought outside of the UK less.

      Anyone wanna bet on this fight? I got Williams
      I'm pretty sure this is the fight Williams will take next. Even in Goosen's plan to fight Tony with that "4 million dollar" offer the plan was still to have a tune-up in November and it was most likely Jennings, his mandatory.

      About this thread, i think the second fight was more of a fluke, although I would pick Williams to win a third fight, just not in such devastating fashion.

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      • Sweet Pea 50
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        #23
        Originally posted by Clegg
        According to the UK media (which is often wrong, to be fair), Paul Williams is going to fight Michael Jennings next.

        Some info for you:

        Age: 30
        Record: 33-1(16KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
        Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
        Promoter: Frank Warren
        Of his first 18 opponents, only one had a winning record

        You remember Gary Lockett?

        Age: 31
        Record: 30-1(20KOs). Only defeat was via split decision
        Reason for getting the fight: WBO mandatory challenger
        Promoter: Frank Warren
        Of his first 18 opponents, 13 had a winning record

        He's basically Gary Lockett, but his opposition is worse, he hasn't avenged his defeat, and he doesn't punch as hard. And he's fought outside of the UK less.

        Anyone wanna bet on this fight? I got Williams
        You can keep that bet, my friend....

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        • The_Italian
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          #24
          Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
          I am talking about Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana..


          Quintana did a decent job of beating Williams up for 12 rounds..

          The second fight was over way before anything about the 1st fight could really be deterimined...

          Was it just a Lucky shot???

          Should they Fight a 3rd fight???

          Or do you think the 1st Fight was the fluke???
          my answer is both a little bit.

          In the first fight williams didnt show up...his body did but his mind was somewhere else and i felt he didnt apply himself in the first fight...

          the second was the first round stoppage and lets face it, i think williams got off to a hot start and quintana got off to a slow one. it shouldnt have been over so quickly/easily.

          Therefore a third fight would help to solve all this.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Silencers
            I don't think either fight was a fluke, Quintana boxed well in the first fight and deservedly won the decision, Williams made the neccessary improvements and adjustments in the second fight and caught Quintana early, of course it helped that Williams actually sparred with southpaws for the second fight.

            I don't mind them having a third fight but a first round knockout is as definitive a statement as you can get.
            My thoughts exactly.

            However, I dont think Quintana wants to fight Williams again.

            I thought Quintana came out too fast too early and brought the KO on himself. He shouldve did exactly what he did in the first fight.

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            • rizkybizness
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              #26
              Originally posted by Patrick Bateman
              For some reason, William's fans want to carry on as if the first fight never happened. Quintana went into the ring and practically put on a clinic for 3 minutes 12 times. That means that Paul Williams had 3 sets of 60 seconds 12 times to adjust and attempt to turn the fight around also meaning that Quintana effectively utilized skill to defeat a stronger and bigger opponent for 3 sets of 60 seconds 12 times or 36 minutes. For anyone to disregard such an accomplishment because of the way Williams avenged his loss is quite extraordinary.

              If Quintana was willing to give Williams a rematch to allow redemption, there should be no reason why Williams should not do the same for Quintana. Each fighter embarrased the other in the best way they know how.
              I agree.

              I want a rubber match.

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              • Miburo
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                #27
                Whatever troubled Williams in the first fight, he certainly made the necessary adjustments to avoid it happening in the second bout...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                  I am talking about Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana..


                  Quintana did a decent job of beating Williams up for 12 rounds..

                  The second fight was over way before anything about the 1st fight could really be deterimined...

                  Was it just a Lucky shot???

                  Should they Fight a 3rd fight???

                  Or do you think the 1st Fight was the fluke???
                  when you land a lucky shot and hurt someone thats a fluke. when you get ouboxed for 12 whole rounds that is not a fluke. this is just plain and basic common sense.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                    I am talking about Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana..


                    Quintana did a decent job of beating Williams up for 12 rounds..

                    The second fight was over way before anything about the 1st fight could really be deterimined...

                    Was it just a Lucky shot???

                    Should they Fight a 3rd fight???

                    Or do you think the 1st Fight was the fluke???
                    i've rewatched both william/quintana fights and still think paul had an off night first time around. second time around even tho williams gameplan got him out of there early, quintana appeared ruled over by paul and even if he got out of the round he would have been doomed to canvas kissing.
                    no rubbermatch needed.
                    clottey is damaged goods.
                    wish arum would allow a marg/will fight!

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                    • Scott9945
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hungryherbert
                      i really dont think Williams turned up for the first fight,

                      if they fought again i think Williams would probably stop him again, he just didnt seem there for the first fight,

                      I agree with that. It's been my opinion since their first fight that Williams was looking past Quintana and not very focused.

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