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  • Elvizzz
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    #21
    Originally posted by RodBarker
    Would it be fair to say Hopkins nearly beat him when Kessler didnt come close , would it be fair to assume that if a lightweight can go the distance with Kessler and that Kessler hasnt really knocked out that much the biggest name Beyer who Danny Green had out of there that he is gunna just KO Pavlik , I dont think so , Kelly has a hammer in either hand and Mikkel has lots of trouble with pressure thats a bad mix for Kessler , he likes to sail along on the front foot at range some how I dont see him sailing alone with Pavlik in front of him Kelly aint no Sartisan or Andrade , Kesslers biggest advantage over Pavlik is size he is a division above him , if they were both middles I think Pavlik would shake rattle and roll him to his boots inside 8 rounds , at the bigger weight its a closer fight that Pavlik will still get because he is a real fighter with a fighters heart and thats the area Mikkel is suspect .
    Maybe Hopkins came closer to beating Calz on the scorecards, but Hopkins clearly felt his KD in the first would be sufficient to win the fight. After that he did everything he could to spoil the rest of the fight... In my opinion Calzaghes win against Hopkins was just as wide as his win against Kessler. Only different was that Kessler actually tried to get a KO. I never said I thought Kessler would KO Pavlik??? And who has Pavlik KOed Taylor with his suspect chin and Miranda who leaves himself open to anything thrown at him.

    I agree that Pavliks high workrate could be trouble for Kessler and I personally see this as a very good and close fight that could go either way.

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    • dstew
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      #22
      Originally posted by Elvizzz
      And who has Pavlik KOed Taylor with his suspect chin
      Taylor's been down once in his entire career and he's got a suspect chin? Ok.

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      • ALT-Assassin
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        #23
        Hopkins right hands never put Taylor down unlike the granite chinned Welsh Dragon.

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          #24
          Originally posted by dstew
          Taylor's been down once in his entire career and he's got a suspect chin? Ok.
          Suspect chin is maybe exagerating a bit but...
          He was Rocked by the old defensive Hopkins and Pavlik is the only fighter with a decent KO-Rating Taylor has ever faced. All Taylors big fights have been against good defensive fighters.
          It is obvious that Taylor likes to outpoint his oponents from the distance, problem with Pavlik was that he kept on walking forward putting on the pressure and Taylor had problems answering this.
          Now Taylor has been down once and Im sure he will hit the canvas again soon if he steps up at SMW.

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          • Mr. Philadel
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            #25
            Originally posted by ALT-Assassin
            Hopkins right hands never put Taylor down unlike the granite chinned Welsh Dragon.
            you have point there bro... also I think Taylor is a stronger puncher than Calz...

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            • jangeorg
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              #26
              Originally posted by Makavelli
              If Kessler wont find Miranda, I don’t think he would want to fight Miranda’s daddy either



              KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA!!!!!

              There are a few people in this that keep repeating this.

              If you are one of these listen up for once....:

              Kessler's team wanted Miranda recognised as the top opponent for Kessler first so that they could make the fight for a belt. As such, the team lobbied the WBA and surprise suprise Miranda got ranked as top contender in the next rankings about 10 days after Miranda's offer. Kessler having worked hard to get Miranda ranked now made his team a better offer. Only to find that suddenly Miranda didn't want any of it

              Please remember that and stop repeating a wrong story
              Last edited by jangeorg; 08-20-2008, 09:51 AM.

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              • dstew
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                #27
                Originally posted by jangeorg
                KESSLER DUCKS MIRANDA!!!!!

                There are a few people in this that keep repeating this.

                If you are one of these listen up for once....:

                Kessler's team wanted Miranda recognised as the top opponent for Kessler first so that they could make the fight for a belt. As such, the team lobbied the WBA and surprise suprise Miranda got ranked as top contender in the next rankings about 10 days after Miranda's offer. Kessler having worked hard to get Miranda ranked now made his team a better offer. Only to find that suddenly Miranda didn't want any of it

                Please remember that and stop repeating a wrong story
                Is that what the Danish media was reporting? Because that's not what the rest of us heard.

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                  #28
                  What has Kessler done to earn a shot at Pavlik?? Beating Mundine or losing to Calzaghe which one is it??

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                  • dstew
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Elvizzz
                    Suspect chin is maybe exagerating a bit but...
                    He was Rocked by the old defensive Hopkins and Pavlik is the only fighter with a decent KO-Rating Taylor has ever faced. All Taylors big fights have been against good defensive fighters.
                    It is obvious that Taylor likes to outpoint his oponents from the distance, problem with Pavlik was that he kept on walking forward putting on the pressure and Taylor had problems answering this.
                    Now Taylor has been down once and Im sure he will hit the canvas again soon if he steps up at SMW.
                    Taylor took some of Hopkins' best shots and stayed on his feet... he was rocked by a huge right hand in the first fight and then Hopkins jumped on him against the ropes... but Taylor stayed up. And you are underrating Hopkins' power... he has KO'd top competition... it's just not his usual M.O.

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                    • jangeorg
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by dstew
                      Is that what the Danish media was reporting? Because that's not what the rest of us heard.


                      No it`s not,it is the true ,you think because Miranda says something different,it is true,Typically US bull****

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