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  • Pullcounter
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    #11
    Originally posted by Elvizzz
    He should step up and fight Kessler... If he wins that fight, which Í highly doubt, he will have a case.

    Right now Pavliks got nothing but two wins against former MW champ Taylor. One fight that Pavlik won after being knocked down... The other fight he won a decision but didnt put on a dominant performance.. Hell I scored the fight a draw, Taylor with the more clean punches, Pavlik with the higher workrate.

    These two wins against a wannabe SMW Taylor dont earn Pavlik a shot at Calzaghe the SMW - LHW Champ. Both Pavlik and Taylor needs to prove they can stand their ground at SMW before calling anybody out...
    hopkins gave calzaghe a tougher fight, so by your logic pavlik should beat hopkins to get to calzaghe?

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    • egreezy
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      #12
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      hopkins gave calzaghe a tougher fight, so by your logic pavlik should beat hopkins to get to calzaghe?
      exactly and once he beat hopkins and looks more impressive then calz, it will be more pressure for the fight to happen. and to whoever said joe should stick to lhw... u think he really wants to fight dawson?

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      • Elvizzz
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        #13
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        hopkins gave calzaghe a tougher fight, so by your logic pavlik should beat hopkins to get to calzaghe?
        Hopkins - Calzaghe was a useless boring fight... Hopkins hugged his way through the last 8 rounds... BORING. Im my opinion the Kessler - Calzaghe fight was a much better fight and clealy the fight Calzaghe should regard as his best performance.
        To say Hopkins put on a better performance then Kessler is just lame. LMAO

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          #14
          Originally posted by Elvizzz
          Hopkins - Calzaghe was a useless boring fight... Hopkins hugged his way through the last 8 rounds... BORING. Im my opinion the Kessler - Calzaghe fight was a much better fight and clealy the fight Calzaghe should regard as his best performance.
          To say Hopkins put on a better performance then Kessler is just lame. LMAO
          Would it be fair to say Hopkins nearly beat him when Kessler didnt come close , would it be fair to assume that if a lightweight can go the distance with Kessler and that Kessler hasnt really knocked out that much the biggest name Beyer who Danny Green had out of there that he is gunna just KO Pavlik , I dont think so , Kelly has a hammer in either hand and Mikkel has lots of trouble with pressure thats a bad mix for Kessler , he likes to sail along on the front foot at range some how I dont see him sailing alone with Pavlik in front of him Kelly aint no Sartisan or Andrade , Kesslers biggest advantage over Pavlik is size he is a division above him , if they were both middles I think Pavlik would shake rattle and roll him to his boots inside 8 rounds , at the bigger weight its a closer fight that Pavlik will still get because he is a real fighter with a fighters heart and thats the area Mikkel is suspect .

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            #15
            Originally posted by Elvizzz
            He should step up and fight Kessler... If he wins that fight, which Í highly doubt, he will have a case.

            Right now Pavliks got nothing but two wins against former MW champ Taylor. One fight that Pavlik won after being knocked down... The other fight he won a decision but didnt put on a dominant performance.. Hell I scored the fight a draw, Taylor with the more clean punches, Pavlik with the higher workrate.

            These two wins against a wannabe SMW Taylor dont earn Pavlik a shot at Calzaghe the SMW - LHW Champ. Both Pavlik and Taylor needs to prove they can stand their ground at SMW before calling anybody out...
            If you don't want guys like Pavlik (or Taylor) calling out Calzaghe or Kessler, you should tell Calz and Kess to stop attending middleweight fights and openly discussing their interest in fighting these smaller guys (going so far as to make an offer in the case of Calzaghe/Taylor).

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            • MELLY-MEL...
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              #16
              Originally posted by RodBarker
              Would it be fair to say Hopkins nearly beat him when Kessler didnt come close , would it be fair to assume that if a lightweight can go the distance with Kessler and that Kessler hasnt really knocked out that much the biggest name Beyer who Danny Green had out of there that he is gunna just KO Pavlik , I dont think so , Kelly has a hammer in either hand and Mikkel has lots of trouble with pressure thats a bad mix for Kessler , he likes to sail along on the front foot at range some how I dont see him sailing alone with Pavlik in front of him Kelly aint no Sartisan or Andrade , Kesslers biggest advantage over Pavlik is size he is a division above him , if they were both middles I think Pavlik would shake rattle and roll him to his boots inside 8 rounds , at the bigger weight its a closer fight that Pavlik will still get because he is a real fighter with a fighters heart and thats the area Mikkel is suspect .
              good post man.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                Originally posted by Elvizzz
                Hopkins - Calzaghe was a useless boring fight... Hopkins hugged his way through the last 8 rounds... BORING. Im my opinion the Kessler - Calzaghe fight was a much better fight and clealy the fight Calzaghe should regard as his best performance.
                To say Hopkins put on a better performance then Kessler is just lame. LMAO
                calzaghe admitted that a 43 year old Hopkins gave him the toughest fight of his life.

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                • optkliluzn
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                  #18
                  I agree Pavlik should fight Kessler to prove his worth, but saying that him being 34-0 isn't worth a shot is wrong and him being knocked down come on Calzaghe got knocked down by an old man in the first round...knockdowns dont count if you can come back from them!

                  Pavlik deserves a shot at Calzaghe more than Roy Jones does, Jones has lost his prime....hes done, Pavlik is the best match out there for Calzaghe!

                  But I agrre he should fight Kessler, and WHEN he wins, Calzaghe should have NO excuse but to fight him, retired or NOT!
                  Originally posted by Elvizzz
                  He should step up and fight Kessler... If he wins that fight, which Í highly doubt, he will have a case.

                  Right now Pavliks got nothing but two wins against former MW champ Taylor. One fight that Pavlik won after being knocked down... The other fight he won a decision but didnt put on a dominant performance.. Hell I scored the fight a draw, Taylor with the more clean punches, Pavlik with the higher workrate.

                  These two wins against a wannabe SMW Taylor dont earn Pavlik a shot at Calzaghe the SMW - LHW Champ. Both Pavlik and Taylor needs to prove they can stand their ground at SMW before calling anybody out...

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                  • Landshark
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Makavelli
                    If Kessler wont find Miranda, I don’t think he would want to fight Miranda’s daddy either
                    Are you talking about "Edison Abraham", I thought you said Miranda's daddy??????

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                    • Da Hammer
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                      #20
                      i like the idea of Pavlik vs Kessler! Am i the only that actually think that fight would be better and more interesting than Pavlik vs Calzaghe?

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