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  • Bad-Wlad
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    #11
    Originally posted by Silencers
    Is it just a coincidence that the boxers you listed are British?

    Ricardo Mayorga
    Brian Vera
    well Froch and Witter ,Haye have bad balance aswell as a bad defence just like Hamed

    is it a coincidence they are all British

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      #12
      Originally posted by BatTheMan
      Surely you are joking about Klit? Not many fighters gets past those long arms and that rapier-like jab. It's very rare to have a HW champ who gets hit as little as Wlad does.
      open defensively pertains to usage of a guard -based defense I assumed

      klitschko never gets hit we know this but he doesn't use a guard, but like you said footwork long arms and offense to not get hit.

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      • Bad-Wlad
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        #13
        when you are talking about fighters that sell out when they punch and leave themselves wind open you are talking about Haye ,Witter,Froch

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        • Stormin' Norman
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          #14
          when I think of a great defensive fighter I think of a guy who can stand in the pocket with someone who can punch and not get hit.

          klitschko doesnt do that. you dont see him weaving and using infighting techniques (because he's so goddamn big and moving the torso like that on him would be a waste of energy, and style because it would lead him to getting ko'd again) it would tire him out so you see him floating around like a modern ali these days...

          I guess I am saying I think of klitschko as a great offensive fighter, more than anything he does defensively.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Stormin' Norman
            open defensively pertains to usage of a guard -based defense I assumed

            klitschko never gets hit we know this but he doesn't use a guard, but like you said footwork long arms and offense to not get hit.
            Of course it depends on definition.

            With the definition you assumed, Muhammad Ali would have the worst defense in boxing history.

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            • Silencers
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bad-Wlad
              well Froch and Witter ,Haye have bad balance aswell as a bad defence just like Hamed

              is it a coincidence they are all British
              It's not like British fighters in general have bad defense. Hamed had pretty good defense before he fell in love with his power but I agree, his defense became worse as his career went on.

              Guys like Eubank, Watson and Graham had good defense in general.

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              • Bad-Wlad
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                #17
                Originally posted by Stormin' Norman
                when I think of a great defensive fighter I think of a guy who can stand in the pocket with someone who can punch and not get hit.

                klitschko doesnt do that.
                well i think of a good defensive fighter as a guy who does'nt sustain punishement and that is Wladimir Klitschko whether you appreicate the way he does it or not

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                • Stormin' Norman
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BatTheMan
                  Of course it depends on definition.

                  With the definition you assumed, Muhammad Ali would have the worst defense in boxing history.
                  Where you get that from? Can Klitschko stand on the ropes and take abuse like Ali could? Could Klitschko stand in the pocket and avoid shots like Ali? No...Klitschko relies on offense and speed/footwork and ring generalship to not get hit, not defensive maneuvers in close like Ali was capable of.

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                  • MANGLER
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                    #19
                    All brawlers are by default, cuz they don't care if they get hit.

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                    • Stormin' Norman
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                      #20
                      why are all your favorite fighters white

                      Black boxers have the ability of instantaneous movement.

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