Whos the greatest fighter of all time?

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  • Silencio
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    #61
    However, I think a fighter's greatness should be determined by his level of opposition, dominance, longevity, and overall accomplishments. I think winning a head to head matchup is secondary to the aforementioned categories.[/QUOTE]

    Exactly! That's why my vote is for the great Roberto Duran!

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    • SonnyG8R
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      #62
      Originally posted by cple
      Actually, if anything, p4p would be a head to head matchup between two fighters. But not a straight up match. P4P, is sort of a mythical idea, where all fighters are in one weight class, but maintain their physical attributes and talents respective to their actual real-life division. So in a p4p fight between Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali, Sugar would have the edge in power, even though in reality Ali probably hit significantly harder. It is a difficult idea to put into words, but it is generally understood.

      However, I think a fighter's greatness should be determined by his level of opposition, dominance, longevity, and overall accomplishments. I think winning a head to head matchup is secondary to the aforementioned categories.

      If you use "level of opposition, dominance, longevity, and overall accomplishments" as your criteria, Ali still comes out smelling like a rose if you consider the guy dominated the heavyweight division during its golden age, dispite losing 3 and a half years of his prime. Simply phenominal.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Silencio
        However, I think a fighter's greatness should be determined by his level of opposition, dominance, longevity, and overall accomplishments. I think winning a head to head matchup is secondary to the aforementioned categories.
        Exactly! That's why my vote is for the great Roberto Duran!

        Duran may be top 5 p4p of all time, but "the greatest boxer ever" would never quit in the ring like a little *****.
        Last edited by SonnyG8R; 10-08-2004, 03:47 PM.

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        • cple
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          #64
          Originally posted by Sonny

          Duran may be top 5 p4p of all time, but "the greatest boxer ever" would never quit in the ring like a little *****.
          I'm willing to overlook Duran's "No Mas", considering what he accomplished and how he did it. The man was simply amazing in every aspect of the game and was possibly the most complete fighter to ever live.

          Originally posted by Sonny
          If you use "level of opposition, dominance, longevity, and overall accomplishments" as your criteria, Ali still comes out smelling like a rose if you consider the guy dominated the heavyweight division during its golden age, dispite losing 3 and a half years of his prime. Simply phenominal.
          Oh, i don't doubt that Ali is an all-time great, who in their right mind would? However, by my criteria, Ali is at #5 all-time, but still is the greatest heavyweight ever. And in my opinion, that's a justifiable ranking.

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          • tino
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            #65
            morrad hakar and patrick charpentier during his welterweight reign of terror.

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            • theironone
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              #66
              Originally posted by executino
              morrad hakar and patrick charpentier during his welterweight reign of terror.
              You crazy sucka!

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              • topi
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                #67
                Rocky/Roy Jones

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                • elveiel
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                  #68
                  I'm not sure who i'd rate as the greatest fighter of all time!?

                  I do know who WASNT the greatest!! Muhammad Ali!!

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                  • Fedor
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                    #69
                    Mike Tyson

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                    • Nautilus
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Fedor
                      Mike Tyson

                      Fedot, do I know you ?

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