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    Some favor the classics, others pick the more recent but it really is a question of who is or was the greatest fighter of all time. Some may argue that Sugar Ray Robinson dominated in his time, he made it big and dominated the 40's 50's and some of the 60's containing a record of 175-19 (fairly impressive i believe). Others may argue that Rocky Marciano should hold that place as history's greatest with an astonishing record of 49-0. There may even be others who come close to this sort of glory but only one sticks out in my mind, Muhammad Ali. Ali is the greatest thing that ever happened to boxing, he's strategic, ****y, inteligent, used a cool head and a fast heart and even if he felt like **** still faught with a smile on his face just to make the other contendor feel intimidated. Many may be disscouraged that im even stating this, that im expressing my views on this but i dont believe im wrong. Try and prove me wrong, who is better than Ali? aubviously nobody.

  • #2
    Sugar Ray Robinson and it aint up for debate

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    • #3
      Rocky Marciano.....why you even asking?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gogan
        Some favor the classics, others pick the more recent but it really is a question of who is or was the greatest fighter of all time. Some may argue that Sugar Ray Robinson dominated in his time, he made it big and dominated the 40's 50's and some of the 60's containing a record of 175-19 (fairly impressive i believe). Others may argue that Rocky Marciano should hold that place as history's greatest with an astonishing record of 49-0. There may even be others who come close to this sort of glory but only one sticks out in my mind, Muhammad Ali. Ali is the greatest thing that ever happened to boxing, he's strategic, ****y, inteligent, used a cool head and a fast heart and even if he felt like **** still faught with a smile on his face just to make the other contendor feel intimidated. Many may be disscouraged that im even stating this, that im expressing my views on this but i dont believe im wrong. Try and prove me wrong, who is better than Ali? aubviously nobody.
        For me it's a tough call to make. If one factors off-the-ring persona into one's choice, then, yes, Ali, is far and away the greatest. But if one limits one's evaluation to accomplishments in the ring, Marciano, who retired undefeated tops the list. Sugar Ray Robinson may arguably be the best, having been dominant in three divisions although the best of his performance was at welter. Then, there's Armstrong whose record of holding titles SIMULTANEOUSLY in different divisions has not been close to being repeated, much less made better. But when/if more weight is given to defense, nobody touches the "Wil o' the Wisp" Pep. A story continues to circulate that Pep won a round without throwing a punch. Dunno if that's true. You guys make the call...
        Last edited by grayfist; 09-22-2004, 08:48 PM.

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        • #5
          I feel when talking about "the greatest" we need to ask "who could beat any other fighter in the history of the sport". That is just my way of looking at it. So pretty much the question becomes who was the greatest heavyweight of all time, unles you believe a lighter guy could have beaten the best heavyweights.
          In my opinion Ali was the greatest heavyweight ever, he could take any other boxer out in the ring. Therefore in my opinion he is "THE GREATEST"

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          • #6
            Thats why the term "Pound For Pound" was created. Of course Jon Ruiz would beat Floyd Mayweather if they fought, but does that mean Ruiz is the better fighter?..no.

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            • #7
              i dont think you can compare fighters from different eras because of advancement in training and nutrition. plus the new fighters learn from the past and try to improve . i think each generation is better than the last in any sport.

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              • #8
                JC Chavez.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jose
                  Thats why the term "Pound For Pound" was created. Of course Jon Ruiz would beat Floyd Mayweather if they fought, but does that mean Ruiz is the better fighter?..no.

                  Right, but the question didn't ask who was the greatest pound for pound boxer. It asked who is the greatest boxer of all time. That's why their is a special advantage or ****yness that goes along with being the Heavyweight Champ. You pretty much know you could kick anyones ass.

                  It's all a matter of criteria, and I explained mine. Even pound4pound though, I would rank Ali in the top 3.
                  Last edited by SonnyG8R; 09-22-2004, 10:05 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sonny
                    I feel when talking about "the greatest" we need to ask "who could beat any other fighter in the history of the sport". That is just my way of looking at it. So pretty much the question becomes who was the greatest heavyweight of all time, unles you believe a lighter guy could have beaten the best heavyweights.
                    In my opinion Ali was the greatest heavyweight ever, he could take any other boxer out in the ring. Therefore in my opinion he is "THE GREATEST"
                    I agree with you Sonny.

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