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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    DLH landed plenty on Forbes. He just didn't hurt him. As far as whether I think Cotto hits harder than DLH...no. I will also add that Cotto is not the hardest hitter Margarito has fought so I fail to see what point you're trying to make.



    George Foreman is the exception, not the rule. And Santos was bigger than Margarito when they fought...by A LOT.


    Define B*tchy.

    Is it making the middleweight champ of the world (and future LHW champ) suck down to 156lbs?

    Is it making the welterweight champ move up a division and choosing the gloves, rings, etc?

    Is it asking a guy who has one fight at lightweight toleap two divisions and fight you?

    Is it asking a former Contender contestant to do the same?
    I don't know so much about Santos... I not even saw the Forbes fight... I just read something about it and I know Forbes from fights... so I can't tell you that... because I really don't care that much for DLH...

    Yeah... you see I never said anything else then that the DLH-Pac fight is the biggest joke and bigges FU to boxing maybe ever... I never said anything else from the get-go... you can check out my posts if you like too... of course it's bitchy... but if somebody does something bitchy... do you do the same... I mean it boils down to the fact that if somebody jumps out the window do you do the same??? Only because DLH is a *****... Margarito wants to be a ***** now too??? I mean if somebody ****s you girlfriend and you **** his you are not better, you an rapist yourself... I hope you understand what I mean... and I mean it not in a bad way... more the way to you guys as look... every boxer in this game is the same... they do it different ways but still everybody is the same... Margarito is no different to DLH, or Mosley or May or whatever... they all do the same... work hard in the gym... fight contenders... become champions and want to get paid for there hard work... it's all the same... that's the point that I want to bring across when I talk about Margarito... I have nothing against him and I can understand why he wants DLH... and I would do the same and everybody else as well... so I can understand but don't try to put him in a better light, he is the same as everybody else

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    • Originally posted by EL_FATHER View Post
      IF YOU CAN BEAT THE CHAMPION DOES THAT MAKE YOU THE CHAMPION?
      NOT REALLY.......
      JUST BECAUSE MARGARITO BEAT UP COTTO...DOESNT MEAN MARGARITO CAN BEAT UP SOME OF THE FIGHTERS COTTO BEAT UP.....LIKE SHANE MOSLEY FOR EXAMPLE.......IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN THE RING......YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS GONNA COME OUT ON TOP.....THESE MEN ARE ALL "PROFESSIONAL" FIGHTERS....EACH ONE HAS THE SKILL AND HUNGER TO WIN.....IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHO WORKED HARDER THAT NIGHT. SO IT REALLY DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING WHEN YOU BEAT THE CURRENT CHAMP......SO WHEN DOES IT MATTER?
      WHEN A FIGHTER CAN DEFEAT THE CHAMP AND CONTINUOSLY STAY AT THE TOP. WE HAVE SEEN MANY FIGHTERS STAY ON TOP FOR MANY YEARS.....BUT IN THAT TIME DID THESE FIGHTERS FIGHT THE BEST MEN THEY COULD HAVE.....?
      NOT REALLY.......THEY PICK AND CHOOSE..WHO AND WHEN AND WHERE....A FIGHT IS A FIGHT NO MATTER WHAT....SO IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE, WHEN AND WHO YOU FIGHT, IF YOU SAY YOUR THE POUND FOR POUND BEST FIGHTER......JUST FIGHT......AND WE WILL SEE WHO IS THE BEST AT THE END OF 12 ROUNDS.....
      ONLY ROOM FOR ONE.....HE WAS UP AND HE WAS DOWN....BUT ALWAYS ALWAYS FOUGHT THE BEST.....
      WHO IS THIS?
      NONE OTHER THAN......
      "CASSIUS MARCELLUS CLAY JR."

      -jesus loves you-
      feeling better from the Cotto loss?

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      • I don't know so much about Santos... I not even saw the Forbes fight... I just read something about it and I know Forbes from fights... so I can't tell you that... because I really don't care that much for DLH...
        Well I think if you don't know much about Santos you shouldn't make the argument using him. Same for Forbes.

        Yeah... you see I never said anything else then that the DLH-Pac fight is the biggest joke and bigges FU to boxing maybe ever... I never said anything else from the get-go... you can check out my posts if you like too... of course it's bitchy... but if somebody does something bitchy... do you do the same... I mean it boils down to the fact that if somebody jumps out the window do you do the same??? Only because DLH is a *****... Margarito wants to be a ***** now too??? I mean if somebody ****s you girlfriend and you **** his you are not better, you an rapist yourself... I hope you understand what I mean... and I mean it not in a bad way... more the way to you guys as look... every boxer in this game is the same... they do it different ways but still everybody is the same... Margarito is no different to DLH, or Mosley or May or whatever... they all do the same... work hard in the gym... fight contenders... become champions and want to get paid for there hard work... it's all the same... that's the point that I want to bring across when I talk about Margarito... I have nothing against him and I can understand why he wants DLH... and I would do the same and everybody else as well... so I can understand but don't try to put him in a better light, he is the same as everybody else
        This is just all too confusing. But I'm gonna skip to the point because the rest of what you're saying is just way out there.

        I don't think anyone is trying to put Margarito in a better light. However, this is boxing and boxers are human. In the past year, he's fought guys like Clottey, Cintron, Williams and Cotto. All champs. I see nothing b*tchy about targeting Oscar...at all--especially since you think Oscar hits SO hard and will hit Margarito plenty because Forbes, unlike Tony, "actually has a defense."

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        • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          Well I think if you don't know much about Santos you shouldn't make the argument using him. Same for Forbes.



          This is just all too confusing. But I'm gonna skip to the point because the rest of what you're saying is just way out there.

          I don't think anyone is trying to put Margarito in a better light. However, this is boxing and boxers are human. In the past year, he's fought guys like Clottey, Cintron, Williams and Cotto. All champs. I see nothing b*tchy about targeting Oscar...at all--especially since you think Oscar hits SO hard and will hit Margarito plenty because Forbes, unlike Tony, "actually has a defense."
          Why... I saw him fight Santos... but I ain't saw the tale of the tape and so on... I know Forbes I saw him fight... just not the DLH fight so I think I can make an argument that Forbes is way more skilled boxer then Margarito...

          Yeah, that's my opinion... I don't think it's bitchy at all... I'm just asking to your Margarito Fans... the Margarito Fans who cried as Floyd fought DLH instead of Margarito... I'm talking to them... I don't know if you a part of that... I'm talking to this ppl... who claimed that Marga is not like that... why he wants to fight DLH then??? I mean is not like he's a champ or a WW??? Why him then... past his prime... easy prey for him... why him then...

          I simply don't appreciate the acting of most Margarito Fans... everybody has a favorite and everybody roots for them... but everybody can talk about their boxer and their accomplishments... and Marga fans can only talk about others. Has your fighter nothing accomplished??? Why do you guys have to talk about DLH??? Why about May??? Can't you talk about your own fighter in a good way without bashing other boxers... and don't give me the nobody gave him a chance crap... is he a small WW that he couldn't move up and fight a champion like other did who were avoided in their time...
          Last edited by jk4real; 08-14-2008, 12:00 PM.

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          • Originally posted by jk4real View Post
            Why... I saw him fight Santos... but I ain't saw the tale of the tape and so on... I know Forbes I saw him fight... just not the DLH fight so I think I can make an argument that Forbes is way more skilled boxer then Margarito...

            Yeah, that's my opinion... I don't think it's bitchy at all... I'm just asking to your Margarito Fans... the Margarito Fans who cried as Floyd fought DLH instead of Margarito... I'm talking to them... I don't know if you a part of that... I'm talking to this ppl... who claimed that Marga is not like that... why he wants to fight DLH then??? I mean is not like he's a champ or a WW??? Why him then... past his prime... easy prey for him... why him then...

            I simply don't appreciate the acting of most Margarito Fans... everybody has a favorite and everybody roots for them... but everybody can talk about their boxer and their accomplishments... and Marga fans can only talk about others. Has your fighter nothing accomplished??? Why do you guys have to talk about DLH??? Why about May??? Can't you talk about your own fighter in a good way without bashing other boxers... and don't give me the nobody gave him a chance crap... is he still WW that he couldn't move up and fight a champion like other did who were avoided in their time...
            Why are you taking it so personal? He wants to fight Oscar cuz he wants to get paid. And after fighting Clottey, Williams, Cintron and Cotto, he has every right.

            Furthermore, what do you mean why didn't he move up if he was avoided at welterweight? That's exactly what he did against Santos! Except the guys who were avoiding him at welter (ahem, Oscar) had moved up and avoided him there too. That's why he moved back down and anticipated the next wave. Besides, what is your point anyway? Marvin Hagler didn't move up either when he was avoided, neither did Hopkins....SO?

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Why are you taking it so personal? He wants to fight Oscar cuz he wants to get paid. And after fighting Clottey, Williams, Cintron and Cotto, he has every right.

              Furthermore, what do you mean why didn't he move up if he was avoided at welterweight? That's exactly what he did against Santos! Except the guys who were avoiding him at welter (ahem, Oscar) had moved up and avoided him there too. That's why he moved back down and anticipated the next wave. Besides, what is your point anyway? Marvin Hagler didn't move up either when he was avoided, neither did Hopkins....SO?
              It's nothing against you... you are somebody who makes some sense or trying to make one... you see to have the right is a thing of definition... is Margarito the mandatory? He has no right and he has the right like everybody else...

              Marvin Hagler is a good example I'm happy you mentioned him... Hagler was also avoided and he ain't moved up because he did it right... he fought every contender who was willing... he fought them beat them... took all the alphabetical titles together as good as it could be and made himself undisputed and respect even before he had his first real big fight in 85. Did Marga did that... he is 5'11, even at middleweight he still not that small... do you think that the names at middleweight would have avoided him... Hopkins first, Taylor second and now Pavlik??? He could have moved up... Hokpins did the same as Hagler... some1 like Pryor moved up to finally fight against a championw ho was willing to fight him...

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              • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Why are you taking it so personal? He wants to fight Oscar cuz he wants to get paid. And after fighting Clottey, Williams, Cintron and Cotto, he has every right.

                Furthermore, what do you mean why didn't he move up if he was avoided at welterweight? That's exactly what he did against Santos! Except the guys who were avoiding him at welter (ahem, Oscar) had moved up and avoided him there too. That's why he moved back down and anticipated the next wave. Besides, what is your point anyway? Marvin Hagler didn't move up either when he was avoided, neither did Hopkins....SO?
                he has every right, and oscar has every right to NOT fight him if he chooses. its funny how you ppl think margo is ENTITLED to fight DLH b/c he beat cotto........

                by that same token, PW should be asking for a fight w/ oscar b/c he beat margo.........

                everybody has their opinion on oscar, and i believe he IS ducking margarito, but no more than margarito IS ducking PW. its hard to call someone else out for doing the same **** you do...................

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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  Why are you taking it so personal? He wants to fight Oscar cuz he wants to get paid. And after fighting Clottey, Williams, Cintron and Cotto, he has every right.

                  Furthermore, what do you mean why didn't he move up if he was avoided at welterweight? That's exactly what he did against Santos! Except the guys who were avoiding him at welter (ahem, Oscar) had moved up and avoided him there too. That's why he moved back down and anticipated the next wave. Besides, what is your point anyway? Marvin Hagler didn't move up either when he was avoided, neither did Hopkins....SO?
                  dang... friggin great post.

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                  • Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
                    he has every right, and oscar has every right to NOT fight him if he chooses. its funny how you ppl think margo is ENTITLED to fight DLH b/c he beat cotto........

                    by that same token, PW should be asking for a fight w/ oscar b/c he beat margo.........

                    everybody has their opinion on oscar, and i believe he IS ducking margarito, but no more than margarito IS ducking PW. its hard to call someone else out for doing the same **** you do...................
                    lol..Margo aint ducking PW...is PW retiring? is Margo retiring? did Floyd? yes, DUCK..IS osCAR HAving his LAST fight ..then retiring? DUCK...
                    we dont thank Margo is ENTITLED to fighting Dela cuz he beat Cotto..

                    Dela said HE WANTS THE WINNER!!!! PAY ATTENTION...now he is ducking...
                    DONT let your hate do that to you....
                    Last edited by C'MONMANG'; 08-14-2008, 01:25 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
                      he has every right, and oscar has every right to NOT fight him if he chooses. its funny how you ppl think margo is ENTITLED to fight DLH b/c he beat cotto........

                      by that same token, PW should be asking for a fight w/ oscar b/c he beat margo.........

                      everybody has their opinion on oscar, and i believe he IS ducking margarito, but no more than margarito IS ducking PW. its hard to call someone else out for doing the same **** you do...................
                      Man, shut up. Who said we think he's entitled? Gimme a break.

                      And how the **** is Margarito ducking Paul Williams? Were you saying that prior to him fighting Cotto? Please, give it a rest. he just fought a few weeks ago, concluding a string that includes Cintron, Clottey and (gasp!) Williams! How about cutting him some slack? It's not like he's calling out...Manny Pacquaio, he's calling out the guy who said he would fight Cotto if he won.

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