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  • #41
    Originally posted by BatTheMan View Post
    Hopkins is finished.
    Grrr...

    I hope he wins....

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    • #42
      Originally posted by BatTheMan View Post
      At 170 lbs?

      Look Hopkins is finished. He's got no stamina and should retire already. He's got nothing left to prove.

      He was picked for one reason only. That's for Pavlik to better beating him than Calzaghe did. And that should be easy considering the fact that Calzaghe fought his worst fight in several years against Hopkins. So this fight is a set-up for a near-certain Pavlik-Calzaghe fight. Smart move in the eye of the general public.

      Pavlik really shouldn't be getting much credit for fighting such an old man. The better road from a hard-core fans view would have been to take on Abraham now, by paying off his mandatory.
      Hopefully he will fight Abraham after. I also think Hopkins should retire. I don't like seeing him fight as a shadow of himself. But since Abraham isn't paying of his mando who does he have to fight? Hopkins is the smartest fight for him at this time unfortunately...

      Do you guys agree that this will likely be Pavlik's biggest payday?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Mr. Anderson View Post
        Grrr...

        I hope he wins....
        I think the Pavlic fans are underestimating just how much of a spoiler Hopkins can be !!
        I can see it being the usual hopkins fight!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Method View Post
          Hopkins is HARDLY a "Calzaghe Leftover".

          Hopkins has a case for deserving the decision, and the Calzaghe's took their gift, their artificially inflated compucrock stats, and high tailed it the **** out of there.
          just 35 posts and you already know how to post a fact......nice job kid!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
            just 35 posts and you already know how to post a fact......nice job kid!
            I think that pavlic could be a bit one dimensional for hopkins!
            It depends on what hopkins got left!

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            • #46
              Originally posted by abosworth View Post
              Hopefully he will fight Abraham after. I also think Hopkins should retire. I don't like seeing him fight as a shadow of himself. But since Abraham isn't paying of his mando who does he have to fight? Hopkins is the smartest fight for him at this time unfortunately...

              Do you guys agree that this will likely be Pavlik's biggest payday?
              The move of fighting Hopkins is very smart from an economic viewpoint. By defeating Hopkins convincingly the public demand for a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight will be enormous. It might be so great that Joe doesn't keep his retirement-promise and go along with the fight. That is if he's hands can hold up.

              The odd man out is Abraham, who'll likely have to go back to Germany defending his belt. So Abraham will be the loser, and so will some of us reasonable posters here on NSB who'll have to 'enjoy' the flamers/spammers duck-threads with Abraham playing the part.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Mr. Anderson View Post
                The Olympics..................................

                Why would he want to be robbed again?

                If Roy called out Benn, Why didn't Benn fight? He went to the USA all the time. So going there to fight Jones was nothing new....
                Benn wanted Jones but Jones fought a lesser opponent (at the time) in Hopkins. Jones fans always like to use the "never left their country" excuse even though Benn came over and bashed up some Yanks that were favoured to beat him. McClellan was a much more dangerous fight and he wouldve got a far smaller payday than fighting Jones.....Benn wouldve fought anyone at that time.

                BUT

                Benn did technically avoid Jones in 1996 by which time he was well past his prime. He wanted $10m to fight Jones because he admitted he would probably lose and just go in swinging trying to KO Jones.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by _Ricky_ View Post
                  Have a loss on your resume.

                  Everyone knows Taylor lost to Hopkins before you say him, Pavlik has never beaten an undefeated fighter.
                  if thats the case and you believe that Hopkins beat Taylor you must believe that Miranda beat AA in their first bout. If that was in the states the fight wouldve been stopped.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by garryd View Post
                    I think that pavlic could be a bit one dimensional for hopkins!
                    It depends on what hopkins got left!
                    exactly....Joe had more of an offensive arsenal....Pavlik is straight 1-2 all night! B-Hop got this one!

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by BatTheMan View Post
                      At 170 lbs?

                      Look Hopkins is finished. He's got no stamina and should retire already. He's got nothing left to prove.

                      He was picked for one reason only. That's for Pavlik to better beating him than Calzaghe did. And that should be easy considering the fact that Calzaghe fought his worst fight in several years against Hopkins. So this fight is a set-up for a near-certain Pavlik-Calzaghe fight. Smart move in the eye of the general public.

                      Pavlik really shouldn't be getting much credit for fighting such an old man. The better road from a hard-core fans view would have been to take on Abraham now, by paying off his mandatory.
                      Actually it was Arum who was approached from Hopkins promoters for the fight from all what I have read. They knew Bob was looking for an opponent for Pavlik and they contacted him advising Hopkins was available.

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