Joe's 3 best wins are better than Hopkins

[Left Hook Tua]

Just like Hearns, Duran and Leonard. Hagler must suck.

duran beat barkley to get the 160 belt years AFTER he loss to hagler.

hearns won belts at 160 , 168 and 175 AFTER his fight with marvin. ditto for ray.

what did tito do at 160 or above after the hopkins fight? what did oscar do at 160 or above?

not the same thing.

[LOLORSKATES]

No credit for Hopkins stopping Winky winning streak???

None, because it doesn't fit their agenda.

[LOLORSKATES]

duran beat barkley to get the 160 belt years AFTER he loss to hagler.

hearns won belts at 160 , 168 and 175 AFTER his fight with marvin. ditto for ray.

what did tito do at 160 or above after the hopkins fight? what did oscar do at 160 or above?

not the same thing.

If you retire after your first loss, it's hard to do much afterwards.

[them_apples]

duran beat barkley to get the 160 belt years AFTER he loss to hagler.

hearns won belts at 160 , 168 and 175 AFTER his fight with marvin. ditto for ray.

what did tito do at 160 or above after the hopkins fight? what did oscar do at 160 or above?

not the same thing.

Trinidad beat Vargas and Joppy, It's enough to make him a legit opponent.

Oscar not so much, Trinidad yes, same with Glen Johnson (know I didn't mention him)

also, Trinidad was 40-0 when he fought Hopkins - that has to account for something, especially British standards.

[Left Hook Tua]

Sure He Could..

lets just say......he might pleasure himself but i wouldn't call it beating the meat.

hint: has something to do with gerbels.

[T-97]

duran beat barkley to get the 160 belt years AFTER he loss to hagler.

hearns won belts at 160 , 168 and 175 AFTER his fight with marvin. ditto for ray.

what did tito do at 160 or above after the hopkins fight? what did oscar do at 160 or above?

not the same thing.

Errrmm.

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Lul...PwNeD

Sorry. Couldn't resist butha

[Super welsh Joe]

Yea exactly, neither of them did sweet **** all except fight bums and manage to keep a "0" up untill Calzaghe fought them. They never did anything at all to garner this much attention.

they did enough to be tipped to upset super Joe

dumb Americans like to pretend they did'nt hype Lacy

and they are back to doing the same thing with hype job Pavlik

[Left Hook Tua]

If you retire after your first loss, it's hard to do much afterwards.

he retired after koing hassine.

i understand that but it still doesn't change the fact that he didn't accomplish anything at 160 or above afterwards.

[them_apples]

they did enough to be tipped to upset super Joe

dumb Americans like to pretend they did'nt hype Lacy

and they are back to doing the same thing with hype job Pavlik

Even though Pavlik beat Taylor and Miranda, and is a legit title holder.

I just checked boxing rec for Lacy and Kessler, i'm right and you're wrong. Lacy didn't do anything, he's not even close to Pavlik.

[LOLORSKATES]

he retired after koing hassine.

i understand that but it still doesn't change the fact that he didn't accomplish anything at 160 or above afterwards.

Hassine was a farewell fight, it meant nothing to the overall scheme of his career.

If someone achieves something beforehand, is that all erased and negated by a single defeat?