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  • Flawless.
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    #21
    Originally posted by danc1984
    I am simply saying that I don't think Hopkins had too much left going into the fight against Joe. I am not making excuses for anybody, I don't need to. Hopkins managed to make the fight competitive by scoringa flash KD and using his knowledge and experience to spoil Calzaghe. After the KD he didn't do a great deal defensively. Kessler on the other hand has great power and is **** in his prime. He was looking very impressive going into that fight and I thought Joe had to fight at his absolute peak to overcome him. Basically, as I said, I think Kessler presented the more significant competitive challenge to Calzaghe and is therefore his best win.
    You thought he presented the bigger challenge. But at the end who’s fight was closer and gave Calzaghe more trouble. Hopkins fighting against Calzaghe would beat Kessler, no denying that. Who had the closer fight? Hopkins did and they were fighting for RING title that Hopkins earned

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    • Dan...
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      #22
      Originally posted by Guled
      You thought he presented the bigger challenge. But at the end who’s fight was closer and gave Calzaghe more trouble. Hopkins fighting against Calzaghe would beat Kessler, no denying that. Who had the closer fight? Hopkins did and they were fighting for RING title that Hopkins earned
      Obviously the Hopkins fight is closer but just because a fight is closer does not make it a better win.

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        #23
        Originally posted by ALT-Assassin
        shut up you fat yank

        I'm actually Canadian

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          #24
          Originally posted by them_apples
          I'm actually Canadian
          Americans and Canadians are all the same.They both have red necks and ignorance.Did you know that you border a third world country?

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            #25
            Originally posted by ALT-Assassin
            American and Canadians are all the same.They both have red necks and ignorance.Did you know that you border a third world country?

            no I didn't know that Canada bordered a 3rd word country, USA does though.

            Canada isn't much for Rednecks ether. Uk is full of delusional boxing fans though, that's for sure. Over hyped euro boxers that get owned when they leave their country.

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              #26
              Originally posted by danc1984
              Obviously the Hopkins fight is closer but just because a fight is closer does not make it a better win.
              Beating a prime unproven fighter who beating a past his prime great who just come off beating two fighters in the P4P list. Calzaghe did a great performance against Kessler. Hopkins presented the greater challenge. WHY??? His boxer smarts, his way to make you look bad, good puncher and very awkward to fight against. Just because Kessler was in his prime doesn’t make that his best win.

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                #27
                Boys, this isn’t about Euro vs. North America. I am putting facts here. Beating unproven fighters doesn’t make that your best win. Hopkins is proven and his last 2 fights were wins and gave Calzaghe the harder fight.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Guled
                  Beating a prime unproven fighter who beating a past his prime great who just come off beating two fighters in the P4P list. Calzaghe did a great performance against Kessler. Hopkins presented the greater challenge. WHY??? His boxer smarts, his way to make you look bad, good puncher and very awkward to fight against. Just because Kessler was in his prime doesn’t make that his best win.
                  People also need to realise that Kessler is alot more strait forward with his style and that alows Calzaghe to get in his awkward rythem of taunting and punching from weird angles in combinations.Hopkins is the smarter fighter who can be awkward leading with his head and clinching to take you out of your rythem.Hopkins is the better fighter who has a superior resume and gave him a harder fight than a young prime Kessler.
                  Last edited by ALT-Assassin; 08-10-2008, 11:16 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ALT-Assassin
                    People also need to realise that Kessler is alot more strait forward with his style and that alows Calzaghe to get in his awkward rythem of taunting and punching from weird angles in combinations.Hopkins is the smarter fight who can be awkward leading with his head and clinching to take you out of your rythem.Hopkins is the better fighter who has a superior resume and gave him a harder fight than a young prime Kessler.[/
                    Hopkins was the harder fight and he come into the fight was a great run of form and presented more danger not to his power but his cunning ability in the ring. Calzaghe was shocked that he got knocked down and knew he was in for a long night.

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                      #30
                      At the end of the day, this is dumb. Why do you care which fight some Calzaghe fans think is his best win? It's all opinion anyway, there's no objective truth on any side. I think Kessler is his best win, but its a personal judgement, I thought Joe might lose to Kessler, as I did against Lacy, but following those two victories I knew he would beat B-Hop, who was too old to beat someone like Joe. I can't rate a fight where I had few fears for my favourite as his best win if there are others where I did, can I? I can however totally understand why others see it differently, B-Hop had the more accomplished career by a mile, and was a huge US name.

                      I might add that I view probably Joe's most important win as Lacy, since Lacy's rep and Joe's performance really put him on the map. Had Lacy actually been any good, as good as Kessler say, then that would be Joe's best win, but he wasn't.

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