Does Arum Deserve Credit for Margarito's success?

[C'MONMANG']

Bob's best move when it comes to Tony was putting him in soft against Golden Johnson, who was riding a spirited win over Oscar Diaz, and making Tony look like a beast while having the HBO team scream that Tony is back with this win. That moved Tony back into the picture

too bad it took 15 years to happen

Tony stopping Cintron and Cotto kinda made him look like a beast too...

[RL_GMA]

This idiot Luciano claims arum doesnt give a **** about margarito and that arum was pissed when margarito lost. So i ask you does arum give a **** about margarito and does he deserve credit for margarito's success? Arum has promoted Margarito like crazy for years now! He's reached out to winky, shane, mayweather looking for big fights for him only to get turned down. He secured a match with him last year with miguel cotto and margarito chose to fight his mandatory...lost and yet arum gets him another title shot and then puts him in the biggest fight of the year against miguel cotto and is now the ww champ. So does arum really not give a **** about margarito? He's been quoted many times stating the importance of mexicans and the ppv they generate. So does he not care about margarito like Luciano claims???

Luciano you are on ignore for this thread so we dont have to hear your dumb ass **** in this thread. I will let the posters decide and to be fair to your **** ass i will not post in this thread either. Poll is public.

Well you have to take into consideration that Top Rank were banking on Cotto winning being he's the more marketable fighter. It almost guaranteed a Cotto vs Oscar fight which would've made huge money and possibly have lured Floyd sometime next year. With Margarito winning Top Rank put themselves in a predicament with Oscar nor Floyd wanting a piece of Margarito whether it be too risky of a fight or not appealing enough considering people still don't really know who Margarito is.

So now he's fighting Zab Judah and possibly Paul Williams early next year. Margarito wants that big money fight, but ironically the only guy feasible to give him that payday is a Cotto rematch next year. It's almost a gift and a curse...Margarito wants the big money, but chances are he may not see it for a while if not ever.

Top Rank lost big money with Margarito beating Cotto...and I'm one that supports the idea of giving Margarito a big money fight because he deserves it.

[MANGLER]

He cares. He's done right by Tony so far. Probably don't care about him as much as he did Cotto, but he cares.

[C'MONMANG']

Well you have to take into consideration that Top Rank were banking on Cotto winning being he's the more marketable fighter. It almost guaranteed a Cotto vs Oscar fight which would've made huge money and possibly have lured Floyd sometime next year. With Margarito winning Top Rank put themselves in a predicament with Oscar nor Floyd wanting a piece of Margarito whether it be too risky of a fight or not appealing enough considering people still don't really know who Margarito is.

So now he's fighting Zab Judah and possibly Paul Williams early next year. Margarito wants that big money fight, but ironically the only guy feasible to give him that payday is a Cotto rematch next year. It's almost a gift and a curse...Margarito wants the big money, but chances are he may not see it for a while if not ever.

Top Rank lost big money with Margarito beating Cotto...and I'm one that supports the idea of giving Margarito a big money fight because he deserves it.

tOP rANK COULDVE just had Cotto fight Dela without him fighting MArgarito..the SSM win warrented it..

Margarito deserved it and got it.. props to him and Arum, who make real fights

[Eaner0919]

Tony stopping Cintron and Cotto kinda made him look like a beast too...

uh follow along

PRIOR to that, PRIOR, Bob had to actually promote his fighter for a change. He had long set Tony and his team on auto pilot thinking as long as he keeps winning he can use him as a bargaining chip at welter since Tony has a belt and can be used whenever someone says they want the best at welter. He did it with Floyd with Shane with Zab YET whats the one thing those names have in common?

NONE of them fought Tony. wouldnt you say thats more a bargaining chip than an actual fighter that Bob wanted to promote?

well Tony lost in July of 2007 and it FINALLY got Bob off his ass when it came to Tony. He moved him smart, putting him on a much anticpated card, a welterweight battle to boot, and gave him an opponent to look good against.

again nice to know Bob finally did his job even if it was 15 years in the making

[Eaner0919]

tOP rANK COULDVE just had Cotto fight Dela without him fighting MArgarito..the SSM win warrented it..

Margarito deserved it and got it.. props to him and Arum, who make real fights

you act like a DLH Cotto fight was a given when it wasnt too long ago that Mayweather and DLH were set to rematch

you want to suck on Arum's nuts for the supposed job he did with Tony fine but I know what his team has said for a while now

[RL_GMA]

tOP rANK COULDVE just had Cotto fight Dela without him fighting MArgarito..the SSM win warrented it..

Margarito deserved it and got it.. props to him and Arum, who make real fights

Understandable, but beating Margarito who many warrant as a dangerous fighter would've propelled Cotto even further making Cotto vs Oscar that much bigger. In the same sense you can ask why Margarito didn't get a shot at Oscar before Cotto. Was it fear or lack of recognition?

You can almost say Margarito is in a similar position as Andre Berto in the sense that they're both champions, but now will be facing the best of the best. Cotto was 1 win away from getting the biggest money fight of his career. Margarito wants and rightfully deserves the same thing, but he still has a little more road to travel to get that recognition regardless of him beating Cotto.

His next opponent is a clear example of that

[C'MONMANG']

you act like a DLH Cotto fight was a given when it wasnt too long ago that Mayweather and DLH were set to rematch

you want to suck on Arum's nuts for the supposed job he did with Tony fine but I know what his team has said for a while now

yah but Cotto and MArgarito DIDNT HAVE TO FIGHT..Margarito wasnt a mandatory.. he couldve defended his IBF against Clottey..

suck my big toe.

Arum was tring to make Cotto MArgarito, last year..

[Guest]

uh follow along

PRIOR to that, PRIOR, Bob had to actually promote his fighter for a change. He had long set Tony and his team on auto pilot thinking as long as he keeps winning he can use him as a bargaining chip at welter since Tony has a belt and can be used whenever someone says they want the best at welter. He did it with Floyd with Shane with Zab YET whats the one thing those names have in common?

NONE of them fought Tony. wouldnt you say thats more a bargaining chip than an actual fighter that Bob wanted to promote?

well Tony lost in July of 2007 and it FINALLY got Bob off his ass when it came to Tony. He moved him smart, putting him on a much anticpated card, a welterweight battle to boot, and gave him an opponent to look good against.

again nice to know Bob finally did his job even if it was 15 years in the making

I think Arum did his part in promoting Margarito. The problem was most guys in the welterweight division just refused to get in the ring with him. It's not like Margarito was turning down fights against big names. Mayweather, Mosley, Judah, etc. wanted no part of Margarito. What can Arum do about that but put him in against the best opposition they can find and hope Tony keeps on winning so that he can stay in that position for a big fight and that's exactly what happened. If anything, it's Margarito's bad for turning down the Cotto fight the first time around because he could have reached the pinnacle of his career one year earlier...

[joseph5620]

This idiot Luciano claims arum doesnt give a **** about margarito and that arum was pissed when margarito lost. So i ask you does arum give a **** about margarito and does he deserve credit for margarito's success? Arum has promoted Margarito like crazy for years now! He's reached out to winky, shane, mayweather looking for big fights for him only to get turned down. He secured a match with him last year with miguel cotto and margarito chose to fight his mandatory...lost and yet arum gets him another title shot and then puts him in the biggest fight of the year against miguel cotto and is now the ww champ. So does arum really not give a **** about margarito? He's been quoted many times stating the importance of mexicans and the ppv they generate. So does he not care about margarito like Luciano claims???

Luciano you are on ignore for this thread so we dont have to hear your dumb ass **** in this thread. I will let the posters decide and to be fair to your **** ass i will not post in this thread either. Poll is public.

Arum cares about Margarito in the same way he cares about his money. Just like any other promoter. If Margarito leaves Arum for another promoter he will slander Margarito in the same way he did Oscar Delahoya and Floyd Mayweather jr. Then you'll see how much he "cares" about Margarito.