Who has Williams beat?

[ferocity]

Give me a man who loses to a guy and not want to avenge his lose and I give you a Coward.



YOU PHAIL

So ******. Fights don't happen for varies reasons. I' ain't going to put other boxers down for your ignorance.

[Zocalo]

Antonio Margarito and Eleser Ortega

[ferocity]

Oh now Margarito deserves a big payday?? What a ****ing hypocrite you are... And why are you worried about him getting a big payday? He's making millions as it is.. Aren't you a BOXING fan??? You should worry about him facing the best and especially him facing the man who beat him. When Floyd fought Oscar for the money you called him a coward and a ducker.. But now its ok for Margarito to go for the money? You ****ing hypocrites make me sick.

Margarito has been ducked for ever. Fighting fighters that others now chose to avoid. People hated him just for winning. He fought his way to the top and fought anyone man enough to fight him.

Mayweather since he got to welterweight has been hand picking his opponets. Had he fought Margarito or Cotto or other real welterweights then he would shut me up.

But when a fighter like Margarito has done it all and people are always hating him and he's fought the best possable opponets, he deserves to fight whome ever he wants. Because he's faced everyone he's had to face. Now, you ask why he wants a payday. Because he deserves it, an underdog that battled his way to the top. And don't worry he'll fight Williams next year if thats what has you upset.

Mayweather wasn't doing **** to give him any credit. His credit was made at 130 and 135. At 147 he didn't do ****. He is the myth of the welterweights.

[Sonic Flood]

Margarito has been ducked for ever. Fighting fighters that others now chose to avoid. People hated him just for winning. He fought his way to the top and fought anyone man enough to fight him.

Mayweather since he got to welterweight has been hand picking his opponets. Had he fought Margarito or Cotto or other real welterweights then he would shut me up.

But when a fighter like Margarito has done it all and people are always hating him and he's fought the best possable opponets, he deserves to fight whome ever he wants. Because he's faced everyone he's had to face. Now, you ask why he wants a payday. Because he deserves it, an underdog that battled his way to the top. And don't worry he'll fight Williams next year if thats what has you upset.

Mayweather wasn't doing **** to give him any credit. His credit was made at 130 and 135. At 147 he didn't do ****. He is the myth of the welterweights.

You're full of ****.. You're the same guy who cried Manny doesn't want to fight Guzman since he just fought Marquez and Diaz in 3 month span.. Now your defending Margarito like a coward.. You're just afraid Williams will beat his Ass twice..

[Addition]

LOL @ this fool getting butt hurt. For months Marg nuthuggers have been talking **** about Mayweather, now their fighter is on the receiving end of the **** talking, they cant take it.

[Ryn0]

Margarito and Quintana he's very young he was a prospect only last year, he wouldn't have fought all that many names.

[ferocity]

Hey Fercotiy, reply to my post, ho ass. Ferocity has no regard for my posts because I stay owning him. BTW Ferocity, Margarito is lucky as hell that he has Bob Arum on his side that will get him fights with top fighters that are with Top Rank. Williams does not have that luxury and life is harder when Arum black balls him. Oh but wait a minute, Arum wants Williams to fight Arum's Middleweight champion of the world. Arum hates Paul. I dont know why. Probably wished he owned him too. At least Dibella has Berto and Quintana. Goosen only has Paul. Goosen is ok but he aint as big time as Arum and Dibella.

I replied to your post and you are correct. In a small way he just fought Arums fighters. But Goosen is throwing money at Margarito he could get him a good opponet.

i feel the same way, i think margarito worked so hard to get here and calling out oscar is ok with me, but unless there is some linear championship available for the same money (which there isnt) he should fight williams for that payday. I defended mayweather for years, i would defend margarito if he took oscar over williams easily. but if he doesnt get oscar and takes say, zab, and i see anyone defending that ****, ima have to call em out, one by one.

So after a tough fight. Margarito doesn't deserve an easier fight after the Cotto fight? Isn't that the norm for a fighter after a tough fight to get a less tougher opponet?

you are not going to get any disagreement from me at all. He needs a Williams rematch to rightfully claim the top spot at 147.

like I wasn't mad at Mayweather for getting paid last year I wouldn't be mad if Tony went after DLH to see if a fight is possible. The money differential between a Williams rematch (said to be 4 million) and a DLH fight (close to 8 figures I would guess) is enough to make any fighter seek it.

but if he doesn't fight Williams then his career isn't complete and it is a huge ????

That bull**** right there, but i know Margarito is going to fight Wililams but dumbass's think he needs to fight Williams right away. If Williams is good enough he'll be there for Margarito, Margarito ain't going anywhere.

[ExecutiveOutlaw]

another butthurt margarito fan mad at williams for beating him fair and square

stop crying ***ggot

[ferocity]

exactly, everybody and they moms except for the punisher and clottey ducked Margarito. He is lucky to be signed with Arum. Arum is where you want to be if you are a major player in the welterweight division.

I know Bob doesnt hate Paul. Hate was a too strong of a word, but you dont think Bob resents Williams for ****ing up the Cotto- Margarito fight the first time? Eventhough it wasd a solver lining in his dark cloud Cotto became bigger, Marg got another title, and the fight was bigger than it would have been last year. BTW, Arum is black balling Williams. None of his fighters are calling out Williams. Not a one.

I hope the fight does come off. To make the rematch bigger and maybe a PPV event, Arum and Goosen should stage a double header WCB event in Vegas or at the Home Depot Tennis Courts in LA(where the first fight was held). Marg vs Judah or somebody better and Williams vs Cintron, Collazo, or his Michael Jennings(the mandatory). I'm sure HBO would be all for it. Ferocity and all the Margoidiots can enjoy the reign a little bit longer and the everybody else will be happy that the rematch will happen if both fighters win.

You're a dumbass why should Arums fighters Clottey and Margarito call out Williams when they are real Champions.

What does Wililams bring nothing. Margarito will fight him don't pee your pants now, it'll happen.

ok *******, Arum got him a Cotto fight last year, and Margarito didnt listen to Grandpa Arum and ****ed that up for a year. I'm sure Arum was dissapointed in his fighter for disobeying him. Arum also offered Floyd 8 mil. Thats called trying to hook his fighter up there. Mayweather said no but thats not Arum or Marg;s fault. So thats two instances. You gotta take the whole relationship into consideration. This year counts, too. Most of all, Margarito is the number 1 welter in the world because of his relationship with Arum. All those local and club fights and what not led up to July 26th. If it wasnt for Arum, there would be no such thing as the July 26th we just had. You got anything else smart to say? I could give two ****s if Arum butt ****d Margarito and extorted him for years. Margarito ultimately won out due to his relationship with Arum. Let me also give credit to Margarito for coming through as well.

Lol, you just got eaten up by eaner, with his response below. lol.

*******? I can't help it if you are dumb when it comes to boxing so you calling me a name for your own indiocy is funny

as for the first Cotto fight you do know about the options behind the contract right? Of course not you are just talking out your ass in making out there statements to back your claim. I heard 3 but someone on here said 5.

and honestly, HONESTLY, that offer Arum gave Mayweather wasn't going to get Mayweather to bite. Tony knew it, Tony's people knew it, Bob knew it yet supposed fans like you take it as if the contracts were signed.



why should it when for the all the back years Arum didn't treat him with any regard. In fact, do you know who Fernando Beltran is? Look it up and get back to me.



he is considered the best if not one of the best welters in the world but that has more to do with the work he and his team did instead of Arum. Tell me what Arum did? especially in comparison to the fighters he had at the time? if he had took care of Tony the way he did JLC Morales heck even Chavez Jr then Tony would have already had the status he has now instead of waiting until 2008 to finally get it all.

[ferocity]

I called you an ******* cuz you are acting like one. Plus I cant smack some sense into you over a message board. You dont know that Margarito would enjoy the same status now that he did back in the day when no one else was willing to fight him. Thats ******. Everything that led up to July 26th happened for a reason. If it wasnt for those experiences maybe Marg would be journeyman fighter for all we know. If it wasnt for Arum, Margarito would have never fought Cotto. So thats why I am right. I aint saying you are wrong. You are just ebing a blind Arum hater. No Arum No Cotto fight.

You really are an idiot.

No Arum, no dumbasses liek you tlaking ****. Takes a good promoter to get you place.

No Goosen, no Margarito fight for Williams. Comprende!