Who has Williams beat?

[CottoOverrated1]

the same Bob Arum that didnt give a **** about Margarito until he lost to Williams thus taking away one of Bob's bargaining chips at 147?

the same Bob Arum that didn't even promote his two biggest fights prior to 08in Cintron I (Main Events) and PWill (Goossen Tutor)?

the same Arum who buried his champ in undercards and local fights?

yuh that Arum. Look I know Margarito wasnt his prized possesion for a very long time, but dont act like Margarito hasnt benefitted from the relationship with old man Bob.

[El Jesus]

the same Bob Arum that didnt give a **** about Margarito until he lost to Williams thus taking away one of Bob's bargaining chips at 147?

the same Bob Arum that didn't even promote his two biggest fights prior to 08in Cintron I (Main Events) and PWill (Goossen Tutor)?

the same Arum who buried his champ in undercards and local fights?

truthfully i feel like margarito was largely ignored until he was using him to make mayweather look bad.

[Eaner0919]

yuh that Arum. Look I know Margarito wasnt his prized possesion for a very long time, but dont act like Margarito hasnt benefitted from the relationship with old man Bob.

you have no clue do you?

tell me then since you know more than I do obviously what benefits did Tony have say prior to this year?

write them out to me.

[CottoOverrated1]

yeah, cuz the other guys ducekd him in the past.

Arum doesnt hate paul, thats ******..

MArgarito will fight PAull.. Im pretty confident of it.

exactly, everybody and they moms except for the punisher and clottey ducked Margarito. He is lucky to be signed with Arum. Arum is where you want to be if you are a major player in the welterweight division.

I know Bob doesnt hate Paul. Hate was a too strong of a word, but you dont think Bob resents Williams for ****ing up the Cotto- Margarito fight the first time? Eventhough it wasd a solver lining in his dark cloud Cotto became bigger, Marg got another title, and the fight was bigger than it would have been last year. BTW, Arum is black balling Williams. None of his fighters are calling out Williams. Not a one.

I hope the fight does come off. To make the rematch bigger and maybe a PPV event, Arum and Goosen should stage a double header WCB event in Vegas or at the Home Depot Tennis Courts in LA(where the first fight was held). Marg vs Judah or somebody better and Williams vs Cintron, Collazo, or his Michael Jennings(the mandatory). I'm sure HBO would be all for it. Ferocity and all the Margoidiots can enjoy the reign a little bit longer and the everybody else will be happy that the rematch will happen if both fighters win.

[Eaner0919]

truthfully i feel like margarito was largely ignored until he was using him to make mayweather look bad.

thank you

I am a reasonable Tony fan

[The_Italian]

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truth.

its true...margarito HAS TO rematch williams and attempt to prove the first fight was a fluke...

people will harrass margarito about williams for the rest of his career and after if he doesnt beat him.

its sad but thats how boxing is...he has to prove he's better.

he hasnt beat ENOUGH top guys to seal a legacy...

theres still a good portion of the welterweight division.

[LOLORSKATES]

thank you

I am a reasonable Tony fan

Who wins?

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[CottoOverrated1]

you have no clue do you?

tell me then since you know more than I do obviously what benefits did Tony have say prior to this year?

write them out to me.

ok *******, Arum got him a Cotto fight last year, and Margarito didnt listen to Grandpa Arum and ****ed that up for a year. I'm sure Arum was dissapointed in his fighter for disobeying him. Arum also offered Floyd 8 mil. Thats called trying to hook his fighter up there. Mayweather said no but thats not Arum or Marg;s fault. So thats two instances. You gotta take the whole relationship into consideration. This year counts, too. Most of all, Margarito is the number 1 welter in the world because of his relationship with Arum. All those local and club fights and what not led up to July 26th. If it wasnt for Arum, there would be no such thing as the July 26th we just had. You got anything else smart to say? I could give two ****s if Arum butt ****d Margarito and extorted him for years. Margarito ultimately won out due to his relationship with Arum. Let me also give credit to Margarito for coming through as well.

[Eaner0919]

Who wins?

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kimura maybe

kotelnik really hasn't won against a top guy other than Rees. Kimura should be a tough test either way

[Eaner0919]

ok *******, Arum got him a Cotto fight last year, and Margarito didnt listen to Grandpa Arum and ****ed that up for a year. I'm sure Arum was dissapointed in his fighter for disobeying him. Arum also offered Floyd 8 mil. Thats called trying to hook his fighter up there. Mayweather said no but thats not Arum or Marg;s fault. So thats two instances. You gotta take the whole relationship into consideration.

*******? I can't help it if you are dumb when it comes to boxing so you calling me a name for your own indiocy is funny

as for the first Cotto fight you do know about the options behind the contract right? Of course not you are just talking out your ass in making out there statements to back your claim. I heard 3 but someone on here said 5.

and honestly, HONESTLY, that offer Arum gave Mayweather wasn't going to get Mayweather to bite. Tony knew it, Tony's people knew it, Bob knew it yet supposed fans like you take it as if the contracts were signed.

This year counts, too. You got anything else smart to say? I could give two ****s if Arum butt ****d Margarito and extorted him for years. Margarito ultimately won out due to his relationship with Arum. Let me also give credit to Margarito for coming through as well.

why should it when for the all the back years Arum didn't treat him with any regard. In fact, do you know who Fernando Beltran is? Look it up and get back to me.

Most of all, Margarito is the number 1 welter in the world because of his relationship with Arum. All those local and club fights and what not led up to July 26th. If it wasnt for Arum, there would be no such thing as the July 26th we just had.

he is considered the best if not one of the best welters in the world but that has more to do with the work he and his team did instead of Arum. Tell me what Arum did? especially in comparison to the fighters he had at the time? if he had took care of Tony the way he did JLC Morales heck even Chavez Jr then Tony would have already had the status he has now instead of waiting until 2008 to finally get it all.