How do you rate Jermain Taylor as a boxer?

[Margarito>God]

He isnt half the boxer Antonio Margarito is!!

[ALT-Assassin]

He isnt half the boxer Antonio Margarito is!!

Calling Margarito a boxer is like calling Mayweather a brawler.His chin is the only god like attribute he has the rest of him is a face blocking slugger.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Decent boxer but overrated. Made a career off knocking out blown up light middleweights and getting an undeserved decision over Hopkins and an undeserved draw against Winky. Has almost completely lost his power - if he ever had any - whilst moving up in competition. Got out-jabbed and battered by a limited boxer like Pavlik.

He'll be a good supermiddleweight but would get beaten by Calzaghe, Kessler and Froch.......possibly even Bute. He should beat Lacy easily enough though.

[dstew]

Decent boxer but overrated. Made a career off knocking out blown up light middleweights and getting an undeserved decision over Hopkins and an undeserved draw against Winky. Has almost completely lost his power - if he ever had any - whilst moving up in competition. Got out-jabbed and battered by a limited boxer like Pavlik.

He'll be a good supermiddleweight but would get beaten by Calzaghe, Kessler and Froch.......possibly even Bute. He should beat Lacy easily enough though.

Belittle Taylor who's fought champions his past seven fights, by dismissing the quality of his opposition and then questioning his decisions against top opposition, and then belittle Pavlik's boxing skill, who is only "limited" in the fact that he's not got lightening fast hands... he's actually a very good technical boxer, he just looks awkward because of his dimensions...

All while saying Hopkins should have gotten the win over Taylor, which is likely meant to credit Calzaghe for his own win over Hopkins, and then going on to hype the typical European names, who if anything have made their own "careers" off knocking out bums.

*yawn*

[abadger]

Belittle Taylor who's fought champions his past seven fights, by dismissing the quality of his opposition and then questioning his decisions against top opposition, and then belittle Pavlik's boxing skill, who is only "limited" in the fact that he's not got lightening fast hands... he's actually a very good technical boxer, he just looks awkward because of his dimensions...

All while saying Hopkins should have gotten the win over Taylor, which is likely meant to credit Calzaghe for his own win over Hopkins, and then going on to hype the typical European names, who if anything have made their own "careers" off knocking out bums.

*yawn*

Thing is though that belittling a boxers skill isn't the same as being unfair on them. Taylor gets huge props from me for the quality and relative threat of opposition he fought as champ, but I really don't rate him very highly. He was good enough to beat Hopkins, Spinks and Ouma and draw with Winky all of whom were credible opposition, but if we're talking creme de la creme Taylor simply doesn't cut it for me and I don't think he can cut it against the best.

[Ryn0]

He isnt half the boxer Antonio Margarito is!!

Boxer? Margarito can't box. He can brawl.

[poeticlsykuac]

Belittle Taylor who's fought champions his past seven fights, by dismissing the quality of his opposition and then questioning his decisions against top opposition, and then belittle Pavlik's boxing skill, who is only "limited" in the fact that he's not got lightening fast hands... he's actually a very good technical boxer, he just looks awkward because of his dimensions...

All while saying Hopkins should have gotten the win over Taylor, which is likely meant to credit Calzaghe for his own win over Hopkins, and then going on to hype the typical European names, who if anything have made their own "careers" off knocking out bums.

*yawn*

Thank You, My one one disagreement is I thought Hopkins deserved the first fight but not the second.

Pavlik was a decision fighter in the amateurs until about 17, he was known for his boxing skills and hand speed(ironic), which he almost beat Taylor with pre-Olympics.

Taylor is a solid fighter, he hits a lot harder then people give him credit for. He has a solid KO percentage especially if you take a look at his resume. He has a 27-2-1 record with 17 KOs. Not bad when you throw in two Pavliks, a Wright, two Hopkins, Joppy, and Ouma. After 30 fights he has been in 7 title fights, not bad.

His hand speed is great at his weight class, he definitely has room for improvement but I'd say from 160-175 he has the most upside. He is talented and still young enough to improve(about 30 on the 11th).

[WLAD OWNS]

Taylor is a very good fighter with an impressive resume

I'm looking forward to seeing him fight at 168

[poeticlsykuac]

Thing is though that belittling a boxers skill isn't the same as being unfair on them. Taylor gets huge props from me for the quality and relative threat of opposition he fought as champ, but I really don't rate him very highly. He was good enough to beat Hopkins, Spinks and Ouma and draw with Winky all of whom were credible opposition, but if we're talking creme de la creme Taylor simply doesn't cut it for me and I don't think he can cut it against the best.

But he has already proved he can hang with the best. I am not sure I understand your point, Hopkins, Ouma, Spinks, Pavlik, Wright are some of the best and definitely considered highly at the point he fought them. He beat an all time great in Hopkins(a 40 year old Hopkins(not 43)), Ouma a solid champ, Spinks(weak sauce to me) but a talented boxer, drawing with a defensive dynamo Wright isn't that bad(Trinidad was embarrassed by him). Losing to Pavlik in the fashion he did in the second isn't that bad. Though Pavlik definitely showed what he does in the first fight.

I am not sure I understand how him fighting those guys and winning 5-2-1 ain't to bad, better then most opponents can do.

[ALT-Assassin]

Belittle Taylor who's fought champions his past seven fights, by dismissing the quality of his opposition and then questioning his decisions against top opposition, and then belittle Pavlik's boxing skill, who is only "limited" in the fact that he's not got lightening fast hands... he's actually a very good technical boxer, he just looks awkward because of his dimensions...

All while saying Hopkins should have gotten the win over Taylor, which is likely meant to credit Calzaghe for his own win over Hopkins, and then going on to hype the typical European names, who if anything have made their own "careers" off knocking out bums.

*yawn*

I completly agree with this post.It has been a recurring pattern with certain posters that try and discredit Taylor because of his loss to Pavlik and it is wrong.Taylor has fought nearly everyone in the Middleweight division and has made all his fights with the best in his division {Winky,Hop,Pavlik} competitive bouts that could of gone either way.Taylor gave Hopkins his rematch and won a close but fair decision,he also wanted an immediate rematch with Pavlik{Arum advised against it}after being knocked out.Taylor has proven his worth in the middleweight division and deserves more respect than this.

Pavlik is also wrongfully put down as a "limited" fighter,but people seem to forget that what tools Kelly has he uses them very well.He is a technical boxer who utilizes his Jab right combination to perfection.He has any punch you can think of in his arsenal and goes to the body when needed.His best attribute is his stamina and punch output.The only thing he needs improvment on is his defense.Taylor has the speed,footwork,jab and combination punching and is overall the better boxer between them but Pavlik still won and yet he is called limited for beating the better athlete.Taylors stamina is a problem but he still managed to win most of his major fights and put up a near even performance with Pavlik who has a very high workrate.

I hope Taylor has a good run at supermiddle and can silence some of these haters