Archie Moore vs Joe Calzaghe

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I think Moore would have won a comfortable decision. He has the power to make Calzaghe respect him and was also a very good counterpuncher, he could also do some serious damage to the body and head on the inside, he'd have been able to take advantage of Calzaghe's wide and wild shots.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Sorry I posted this in the wrong section. Anyway from the 5-6 fights I have seen of Moore including that great fight with Yvon Durelle he is much more skilled than Calzaghe great upper body movement a shell like defence and decent footwork he would also throws a lot of feints to make you throw first then counter. The problem Archie had was fighters with speed in the Patterson fight he just couldn’t cope with the speed accuracy and power of Floyd. Calzaghe has the speed to give Moore trouble but I don’t think he is accurate or powerful enough, I see Moore landing a few of his powerful right hands and knocking out Calzaghe in the about round 10.

Archie was past his prime and 45 when he fought Durrelle, even then he won the fight by knockout. He was out on his feet plenty of times and was almost stopped in the first and the 4th from what i remember. Durrelle caught him in first and i honestly thought that it was over. His body went stiff and he didn't look to be in the best shape afterwards. Some how, he recoperated and got it back together. You should see a peak Moore at light heavyweight when he had his title reign. He was truely a monster and easily one of the greatest ever. He didn't even get a shot at a title until he was older.

People are saying that Moore lost to lesser fighters, but they are also forgetting that these guys fought the best of their generation and are known for taking risk, two things that Calzaghe was not known for doing when he was in his true prime (I still think hes in his prime).

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Archie was past his prime and 45 when he fought Durrelle, even then he won the fight by knockout. He was out on his feet plenty of times and was almost stopped in the first and the 4th from what i remember. Durrelle caught him in first and i honestly thought that it was over. His body went stiff and he didn't look to be in the best shape afterwards. Some how, he recoperated and got it back together. You should see a peak Moore at light heavyweight when he had his title reign. He was truely a monster and easily one of the greatest ever. He didn't even get a shot at a title until he was older.

People are saying that Moore lost to lesser fighters, but they are also forgetting that these guys fought the best of their generation and are known for taking risk, two things that Calzaghe was not known for doing when he was in his true prime (I still think hes in his prime).

Moore's KO win over Durelle in the rematch was one of his best performances ever, although he was in his 40's. He seemed much younger than he was, a truly ageless fighter.



The first one was a great fight but this was a great performance.

[Boogie Nights]

Archie was past his prime and 45 when he fought Durrelle, even then he won the fight by knockout. He was out on his feet plenty of times and was almost stopped in the first and the 4th from what i remember. Durrelle caught him in first and i honestly thought that it was over. His body went stiff and he didn't look to be in the best shape afterwards. Some how, he recoperated and got it back together. You should see a peak Moore at light heavyweight when he had his title reign. He was truely a monster and easily one of the greatest ever. He didn't even get a shot at a title until he was older.

People are saying that Moore lost to lesser fighters, but they are also forgetting that these guys fought the best of their generation and are known for taking risk, two things that Calzaghe was not known for doing when he was in his true prime (I still think hes in his prime).

lol i see ***** southpaw using his lies as usual, putting me in his sigs lol


this whole post that i made to Jim Jeffries proves what a liar and looser bitchsouthpaw is

Are you talking about the Undisputed Linear title he won from fat, out of shape journeyman Buster Douglas? That he defended against an old Foreman, little Bert Cooper and a 42 year old Holmes before losing to Rid**** Bowe?

I love Holyfield, but he was owned by big men like Bowe and Lewis. And you can't convince me that a 205-215 lb Holyfield, which is to say a prime Holyfield, is going to beat a much larger, much more powerful 240-245 lb Wladimir.

for some reason you fail to mention that evander also beat bowe once. in the third fight he went in with health problems

that little bert cooper you're talking about outweighed holyfield by 5 pounds, if cooper was small for evander than evander was also small for cooper considering both of them fought at cruiserweight, and evander retook that fight 3 times over a short notice. cooper may have been a journeyman, but he was a dangerous opponent who learned his trade from joe frazier

while holyfield might have lost to lennox the first fight (official draw) many might point out that that he was robbed in the rematch as he fought lennox on even terms and decision was close.

that's not a refreshing statement about a guy who had to overcome the size difference throught his entire career to seek out victories against much bigger men

holyfield is no doubt top 15, if not top 10 heavies of all time

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Archie was past his prime and 45 when he fought Durrelle, even then he won the fight by knockout. He was out on his feet plenty of times and was almost stopped in the first and the 4th from what i remember. Durrelle caught him in first and i honestly thought that it was over. His body went stiff and he didn't look to be in the best shape afterwards. Some how, he recoperated and got it back together. You should see a peak Moore at light heavyweight when he had his title reign. He was truely a monster and easily one of the greatest ever. He didn't even get a shot at a title until he was older.

People are saying that Moore lost to lesser fighters, but they are also forgetting that these guys fought the best of their generation and are known for taking risk, two things that Calzaghe was not known for doing when he was in his true prime (I still think hes in his prime).

Yeah i would like to see more of a prime Moore lol. That fight with Durrelle was very good i think the 2 fights with Durrelle were his last successfull light heavyweight title defence's. I have just order a dvd that has moore's fights with Maxim, Johnson, Marciano and a few others so im looking forward to watching it.

[Boogie Nights]

Yeah i would like to see more of a prime Moore lol. That fight with Durrelle was very good i think the 2 fights with Durrelle were his last successfull light heavyweight title defence's. I have just order a dvd that has moore's fights with Maxim, Johnson, Marciano and a few others so im looking forward to watching it.

yeah, moore was the last fighter marciano fought. Rocky gave Archie a beating. but Moore is only the second fighter to knock down rock.

Moore's biggest victories did not come at heavyweight though, but he still could compete there. Archie Moore is probably a top 15 maybe even 10 P4P

PS his fight with Durell is Joe Louis' favourite fight. i remember reading Archies recollections of that fight, he said he used some mental tricks to soften up Yvon

[slicksouthpaw16]

Moore's KO win over Durelle in the rematch was one of his best performances ever, although he was in his 40's. He seemed much younger than he was, a truly ageless fighter.



The first one was a great fight but this was a great performance.

Yeah i would like to see more of a prime Moore lol. That fight with Durrelle was very good i think the 2 fights with Durrelle were his last successfull light heavyweight title defence's. I have just order a dvd that has moore's fights with Maxim, Johnson, Marciano and a few others so im looking forward to watching it.

His fight with Hardold Johnson should be good. In fact, Johnson was never a guy that even got the press that he should have. In reality, he was a very good fighter and a masterful technition in the ring. He could do it all. He had wins over Moore, Charles and Auturo Goodoy, who later when up to heavyweight to give Joe Louis hell.

And i agree Manchine. Moore was just phenomenal and i am shocked that after the war they had in their first fight, he was able to pull off that kind of performance at the age that he was and the wars that he had already been through by that point. Wars with Charles, Marciano, Patterson, Johnson and a lot of others.

[Boogie Nights]

His fight with Hardold Johnson should be good. In fact, Johnson was never a guy that even got the press that he should have. In reality, he was a very good fighter and a masterful technition in the ring. He could do it all. He had wins over Moore, Charles and Auturo Goodoy, who later when up to heavyweight to give Louis hell.

i love it when you come on the forums and pretend to be a wise historian. HAHA, you gonna miss a school dance.

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His fight with Hardold Johnson should be good. In fact, Johnson was never a guy that even got the press that he should have. In reality, he was a very good fighter and a masterful technition in the ring. He could do it all. He had wins over Moore, Charles and Auturo Goodoy, who later when up to heavyweight to give Joe Louis hell.

And i agree Manchine. Moore was just phenomenal and i am shocked that after the war they has in their first fight, he was able to pull off that kind of performance at the age that he was and they wars that he had already been through by that point. Wars with Charles, Marciano, Patterson, Johnson and a lot of others.

the dvd i ordered has the 2nd Johnson fight which Johnson won by UD and there 3rd fight which Moore won by UD so should be good.

[slicksouthpaw16]

In what way did i lie Boxing_Prospect? Click on the link to both of the quotes in my signature and you will see that i didn't edit anything or do anything to the posts.