If Mayweather were to come back and fight Margarito..

[Luciano]

Cotto was the BEST (besides Williams) that Marg has seen....so you are saying that we would get the same outcome with a fighter who is MUCH better than Cotto AND Williams...help me out?

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[krispy kreme]

Cotto, Williams, and Clottey showed us Margarito is vulnerable to getting outpointed by boxers. Mayweather could do what Cotto did all night with less punch output but still win on points. There is a slight chance Floyd could get caught with something big, but he is good at getting out of trouble. I don't think Floyd is that much better than Cotto or Williams overall, but boxing skill wise he definitely is.

[mECHsLAVE]

Hehe, I forgot that the kiddies took over this forum. Ok, let me breathe a little bit of life in here for all the "Mayweather is God" fanbabies.

Mayweather has never beaten anyone with the power/skill combination of Cotto in...well....EVER! Simple as that.

Mayweather is an awesome fighter, don't get me wrong. But he did cherry-pick his way into the welters by beating its most beatable lineal champ in a long, long time. Those of you comparing Baldomir to Margarito are just plain silly. Baldomir is just a straight ahead, one-two fighter, with no head-movement. His claim to fame is catching Judah with one shot, that Judah basically never recovered from. Baldomir is not Margarito. Read that again if you need to. Margarito shoots punches from so many different angles, both to the head and the body, is utterly relentless, and comes in incredible shape. He switches his power shots to the head and body, with upper cuts and angles that just wears you out. Especially down the stretch.

Yes, Williams beat him, but in a 15 round fight, Margarito would've taken it. Williams had the freakish size and range to stay away from him, and wanted nothing to do with engaging him. And I have a news-flash for you guys, Williams when he's on his game will give anyone serious trouble below 154, Mayweather included. Mayweather would never fight Williams. And I mean, never. Read that again, if you need to. Never. Mayweather's success in most of his fights comes from his quick jab, based on his ridiculous reach advantage he had in almost every fight, which kept his opponents off-balance and let him shoot his insanely quick power shots at will.

Mayweather has never fought anyone with the size, power, relentlessness, durability or ferociousness of Margarito, who can take everything Mayweather can throw at him, and has the size and reach to really pressure Mayweather. The closest would've been Castillo, who of course is less in every category, or DLH, who has fallen way off and fought a horrible style against Floyd.

I mean, name someone who Floyd beat who Margarito wouldn't have beaten probably worse. LOL Hatton? Margarito would've ended Hatton in 3 rounds. Hatton is not a welterweight, and is crippled by a terribly small reach. Taylor-made for Floyd. DLH? As we all saw from that fight, a prime DLH would've made Floyd look silly. Because this way-past-prime version of DLH gave him all he could handle, while fighting the worst gameplan imaginable.

And the worst part of Saturday night was, Cotto himself would've had a very good chance of beating Mayweather. In fact, I would've favored him. His quick combos, short punches, strength, volume, etc. He'll never get that chance now, of course. But Margarito should. After that performance, and the dodges by Floyd in the past, he should get his shot against Mayweather. It won't happen, for most of the reasons it never happened before. Mayweather doesn't want to fight him. Never did. Floyd isn't nearly as confident as his fanboys.

[poeticlsykuac]

Hehe, I forgot that the kiddies took over this forum. Ok, let me breathe a little bit of life in here for all the "Mayweather is God" fanbabies.

Mayweather has never beaten anyone with the power/skill combination of Cotto in...well....EVER! Simple as that.

Mayweather is an awesome fighter, don't get me wrong. But he did cherry-pick his way into the welters by beating its most beatable lineal champ in a long, long time. Those of you comparing Baldomir to Margarito are just plain silly. Baldomir is just a straight ahead, one-two fighter, with no head-movement. His claim to fame is catching Judah with one shot, that Judah basically never recovered from. Baldomir is not Margarito. Read that again if you need to. Margarito shoots punches from so many different angles, both to the head and the body, is utterly relentless, and comes in incredible shape. He switches his power shots to the head and body, with upper cuts and angles that just wears you out. Especially down the stretch.

Yes, Williams beat him, but in a 15 round fight, Margarito would've taken it. Williams had the freakish size and range to stay away from him, and wanted nothing to do with engaging him. And I have a news-flash for you guys, Williams when he's on his game will give anyone serious trouble below 154, Mayweather included. Mayweather would never fight Williams. And I mean, never. Read that again, if you need to. Never. Mayweather's success in most of his fights comes from his quick jab, based on his ridiculous reach advantage he had in almost every fight, which kept his opponents off-balance and let him shoot his insanely quick power shots at will.

Mayweather has never fought anyone with the size, power, relentlessness, durability or ferociousness of Margarito, who can take everything Mayweather can throw at him, and has the size and reach to really pressure Mayweather. The closest would've been Castillo, who of course is less in every category, or DLH, who has fallen way off and fought a horrible style against Floyd.

I mean, name someone who Floyd beat who Margarito wouldn't have beaten probably worse. LOL Hatton? Margarito would've ended Hatton in 3 rounds. Hatton is not a welterweight, and is crippled by a terribly small reach. Taylor-made for Floyd. DLH? As we all saw from that fight, a prime DLH would've made Floyd look silly. Because this way-past-prime version of DLH gave him all he could handle, while fighting the worst gameplan imaginable.

And the worst part of Saturday night was, Cotto himself would've had a very good chance of beating Mayweather. In fact, I would've favored him. His quick combos, short punches, strength, volume, etc. He'll never get that chance now, of course. But Margarito should. After that performance, and the dodges by Floyd in the past, he should get his shot against Mayweather. It won't happen, for most of the reasons it never happened before. Mayweather doesn't want to fight him. Never did. Floyd isn't nearly as confident as his fanboys.

Thank you for saying this, I have been trying to explain it but intelligence seems to run wild on these forums, to bad none of these guys can catch it.

[mECHsLAVE]

Cotto was the BEST (besides Williams) that Marg has seen....so you are saying that we would get the same outcome with a fighter who is MUCH better than Cotto AND Williams...help me out?

First of all, "better" is a very ambiguous term, and really shouldn't be used to describle fighters. And then you throw in the "MUCH".... LOL.

Name someone who Floyd has fought who has the power/speed/combinations of Cotto. Or someone with the size/reach of Williams.

Yeah, I'll be waiting awhile....

I'd honestly pick Cotto or Williams over Mayweather. Maybe not now, because Cotto may not recover from that beating. He could very well be another Meldrick Taylor, Jeff Lacy, etc... I sure hope not, but it's likely that he won't return to his previous form after Saturday.

Really none of the fighters Floyd has fought at welter are in the category of Cotto, Williams and Margarito.

Hatton? Should never have fought at 147, small, short reach, etc.

DLH? Way past his prime, still a good fighter, fought Floyd razor-close with a horrible fight strategy.

I mean, do I need to keep going? Mitchell? Chop-chop? LOL Name someone who was at the top of their game, at the level of a Cotto or Williams when he fought them at welter.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Cotto was the BEST (besides Williams) that Marg has seen....so you are saying that we would get the same outcome with a fighter who is MUCH better than Cotto AND Williams...help me out?

Floyd has done **** at welter, how is he better than Cotto or Williams?

Because he outpointed Carlos Baldomir?

[COMMY]

I'm not sure who would win. But Mayweather vs Margarito is a fight i would like to see!

[Dirt E Gomez]

I don't get how so many people post this rubbish about Cotto somehow beating Mayweather. Would he have a shot? Of course. But seeing what Judah could do to Cotto for a while should be more than enough to convince anybody of what Mayweather would be able to do....

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't get how so many people post this rubbish about Cotto somehow beating Mayweather. Would he have a shot? Of course. But seeing what Judah could do to Cotto for a while should be more than enough to convince anybody of what Mayweather would be able to do....

and Floyd has done what at welterweight again?

Oh, he beat one of the worst champions in history. Yep, that means he beats every other contender too.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Floyd has done **** at welter, how is he better than Cotto or Williams?

Because he outpointed Carlos Baldomir?

Past accomplishments, or say; obvious skill differential doesn't translate to new weight classes?

People move up in weight and receive title shots quickly... Floyd proves he's an absolute beast for years and years and one of the best technicians in the ring ever... but moving up suddenly negates all of what he's shown us before? I'm sorry, I have a memory that spans lasts more than a year that doesn't allow me to ignore such things.