Billy Graham Retires, Will Ricky Hatton Use Floyd Sr.?

[Weebler I]

So if Hatton had no chance why did Floyd feel the need to deliberately cheat in order to gain an advantage? Did Floyd prefer cheating to winning fairly? I mean Hatton had NO CHANCE right?

I agree, of course Hatton had a chance, a big one, but Cortez took his one method of victory away from him.

Now they can say Hatton is ****, he had no plan B but if you took away Floyd's plan A (hitting and running) where would he be? not 39-0 thats for sure.

[ALT-Assassin]

Hatton's gameplan and ONLY chance against Mayweather was to be able to ship some leather on the way in then attack the body and fight out of clinches. Even Hatton's fans acknowledged this, including myself. Mayweather's key to victory was to keep the fight on the outside and keep landing counters while Hatton moved in. So while it wasn't Cortez's fault that Hatton got hit with right hand leads (Hatton expected it as well!) it was Cortez who directly led to Hatton taking more counters than he would have done otherwise.

Furthermore Hatton was relying on being able to smother Floyd's counters and throw a welter of short inside punches in order to wear Floyd down. Hatton was not relying on a hugely accurate punch rate. You should never bring a knife to a gunfight but if you did find yourself in such a predicament you wouldn't hang around on the other side of the room, you would close the distance. Crisp and accurate punches was Floyd's game, Hatton's gameplan was to remove those advantages by turning it into a brawl. Again, Cortez did not allow that to happen.

Finally this "check hook" which is now the most famous punch in boxing apparently was landed after three straight rounds of Ricky running into awful punishment after he clearly abandoned his head movement and feints. Do you think Hatton would have been knocked down if Floyd had landed that punch in the first round?



At what point does deliberately cheating to gain an advantage became a "smart tactic"? Is training on steroids a "smart tactic"? If we can agree that holding is cheating (after all most of the people who dislike Hatton use his holding as the chief reason for it, and any discussion about Ruiz essentially reaches the same conclusion) and we can certainly see that Floyd gained an advantage from holding then it's questionable exactly how it can be described as "smart tactics". Cheating is not the same as tactics.

For me the question isn't whether Cortez cost Ricky the fight. We cannot say whether Hatton would have won or finished on his feet or whether the fight would have been close. It could be argued that Cortez robbed Ricky Hatton but without question Cortez robbed US of a great fight by consistently favouring one fighter.

Are you serious? Hatton hits and holds while clinching he did it to Tyszu,Costillo and tried to do it to Mayweather but Floyd beat him to it.How can you compare clinching and steroids to what Hatton does to many fighters?I find it funny that you don't complain when hatton does it but now when it is reversed its a crime against boxing.Your logic is flawed considerinng Mayweather only did it in this one fight and Hatton has done it in many.

That is just it! Hatton was knocked out by a check left hook that capitilized on Hatton's flaw of lunging in with his left hook.If you noticed in the Lazcano fight Ricky was hit with a similar hook that rocked him.If a C class fighter landed that punch what makes you think Mayweather can't repeat that in a rematch?

[Weebler I]

Are you serious? Hatton hits and holds whil clinching he did it to Tyszu Cosstillo and tried to do it to Mayweather but Floyd beat him to it.How can you compare clinching and steroids to what Hatton does to many fighters?I find it funny that you don't complain when hatton does it but now when it is reversed its a crime against boxing.Your logic is flawed considerinng Mayweather only did it in this one fight and Hatton has done it in many.

That is just it! Hatton was knocked out by a check left hook that capitilized on Hatton's flaw of lunging in with his left hook.If you noticed in the Lazcano fight Ricky was hit with a similar hook that rocked him.If a C class fighter landed that punch what makes you think Mayweather can't repeat that in a rematch?

no one's saying that, they're saying the ref wasn't even handed with both fighters, he was biased. point-blank, full-stop, period.

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Billy Graham Retires, Will Ricky Hatton Use Floyd Sr.?

Ever since younger brother Matthew Hatton left for another gym/trainer, there were rumors going around that older brother Ricky Hatton would split with longtime trainer Billy Graham. It appears the rumors are true as Graham has announced his retirement from the sport and will be in Ricky's corner for the November 22 bout with IBF junior welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi. [details]

[Weebler I]

Even if he did work with Floyd Sr. Hatton wouldn't change his style, he's just instinctive when he gets in the ring and nothing will change that.

[ALT-Assassin]

So if Hatton had no chance why did Floyd feel the need to deliberately cheat in order to gain an advantage? Did Floyd prefer cheating to winning fairly? I mean Hatton had NO CHANCE right?

Why did Hatton have to Low Blow Tyszu and hug him the whole fight to give himself the advantage?Hatton was allowed to fight his fight plenty of times and failed to do so.It was the first two rounds that Cortez was over cautious.Anytime he was given the opportunity to fight his fight Mayweather landed the cleaner more effective shots.10 out of 10 times Hatton will lose to Mayweather.I hope he comes out of retirement and fights him in the men areana with Hattons hometown ref and desrtoys him.Even if he does that you will still hear excuses.

[The Gully Gad]

Maybe its to help him more with his gameplans
because like u said u cant teach a dog new tricks
but you can up his game a little

[Weebler I]

Why did Hatton have to Low Blow Tyszu and hug him the whole fights to give himself the advantage?Hatton was allowed to fight his fight plenty of times and failed to do so.It was the first two rounds that Cortez was over caustious.Anytime he was given the opportunity to fight his fight Mayweather landed the cleaner more effective shots.10 out of 10 times Hatton will lose to Mayweather.I hope he comes out of retirement and fights him in the men areana with Hattons hometown ref and desrtoys him.Even if he does that you will still hear excuses.

No.1 - he wasn't allowed to fight his fight, this is a lie

No.2 - it wasn't the first two rounds Cortez was overcautious, it was the first four, the critical ones for Hatton and after this it was still hatton he repeatedly warned

No.3 - with a ref who allows in-fighting Mayweather loses every time probably knocked out too

No.4 - if the ref allows in-fighting there would be no excuses, but you know Floyd is never man enough to fight in Manchester without the ref being set up

[Flawless]

Even if he did work with Floyd Sr. Hatton wouldn't change his style, he's just instinctive when he gets in the ring and nothing will change that.

I shouldn't have said American, what I meant was he wouldn't work with an ****** like Mayweather Sr

I thought you said he would never work with Mayweather Sr

[ALT-Assassin]

no one's saying that, they're saying the ref wasn't even handed with both fighters, he was biased. point-blank, full-stop, period.

He may have forcefull but he did his job.He didn't hit Hatton with the knockout blow or DQ him.