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  • COACH WEBB
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    #1

    My TOP 3 reasons why Miguel lost....

    *DISCLAIMER*- This is by NO means a flame or bait thread. I just want to take this time to SERIOUSLY look at the fight and the reasons why I (not you or anyone else) believe Miguel lost the fight on Saturday Night.

    Reason #1. Gameplan

    Going into any BIG fight, one has to have a strategy, a game plan. Not just a game plan, but one that FITS your opponent. This takes time and preparation, much training and film study of your opponent. Now I believe that Team Cotto studied Marg, but I don't think they had the RIGHT game plan to beat him. Yes Cotto boxed and moved and landed some GREAT, FLUSH shots to the head, but WHERE WAS THE BODY WORK???????!!!!!!! I think that was his FIRST mistake, he did NOT dig to the body and Marg had his legs the entire fight, which helped him in the second half of the fight.

    Reason #2. Defense

    Personally, I see this as Miguel's BIGGEST weakness. From 140 to now, he has been hit easily and hurt too much for a fighter of his caliber. They say in other sports that defense wins championships and that hold true to boxing as well! Everyone can deliver a shot, but everyone CAN'T take a shot. In the second half of the fight, that is what I saw. Marg was NOT hitting Miguel with DEVASTATING shots, but they added up and lead to Miguel's demise. Miguel HAS to tighten up his defense, or he will find himself hurt against the better guys in the sport.

    Reason #3. Stamina
    I know for a fact that Miguel trained hard for this fight! He looked great. He looked prepared. But down the stretch, he began to tire. In this sport a champion or challenger HAS to be prepared for ANY AND EVERYTHING! Every fight is NOT going to be over in 4 rounds or even 8, therefore one has to be in TIP-TOP SHAPE! Miguel ran out of gas from all of the moving that he did (which was smart) and it cost him in the second half of the fight. On the contrary, his opponent, never SEEMED to have tired and capitalized on Miguel's fatigue.

    Conclusion
    Hope this isn't too long, but this why I believe that Miguel lost on Saturday night. Can he come back and be champion..YES he can. I just hope this lost does not effect him too bad mentally. Boxing is a tough sport and ONLY the strong survive when the bell rings. My hats are off to Miguel for a great fight. Dig in NSB...



    Marg victory analysis thread coming shortly...
  • mellow_mood
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    #2
    Originally posted by V. WEBB JR.
    *DISCLAIMER*- This is by NO means a flame or bait thread. I just want to take this time to SERIOUSLY look at the fight and the reasons why I (not you or anyone else) believe Miguel lost the fight on Saturday Night.

    Reason #1. Gameplan

    Going into any BIG fight, one has to have a strategy, a game plan. Not just a game plan, but one that FITS your opponent. This takes time and preparation, much training and film study of your opponent. Now I believe that Team Cotto studied Marg, but I don't think they had the RIGHT game plan to beat him. Yes Cotto boxed and moved and landed some GREAT, FLUSH shots to the head, but WHERE WAS THE BODY WORK???????!!!!!!! I think that was his FIRST mistake, he did NOT dig to the body and Marg had his legs the entire fight, which helped him in the second half of the fight.

    Reason #2. Defense

    Personally, I see this as Miguel's BIGGEST weakness. From 140 to now, he has been hit easily and hurt too much for a fighter of his caliber. They say in other sports that defense wins championships and that hold true to boxing as well! Everyone can deliver a shot, but everyone CAN'T take a shot. In the second half of the fight, that is what I saw. Marg was NOT hitting Miguel with DEVASTATING shots, but they added up and lead to Miguel's demise. Miguel HAS to tighten up his defense, or he will find himself hurt against the better guys in the sport.

    Reason #3. Stamina
    I know for a fact that Miguel trained hard for this fight! He looked great. He looked prepared. But down the stretch, he began to tire. In this sport a champion or challenger HAS to be prepared for ANY AND EVERYTHING! Every fight is NOT going to be over in 4 rounds or even 8, therefore one has to be in TIP-TOP SHAPE! Miguel ran out of gas from all of the moving that he did (which was smart) and it cost him in the second half of the fight. On the contrary, his opponent, never SEEMED to have tired and capitalized on Miguel's fatigue.

    Conclusion
    Hope this isn't too long, but this why I believe that Miguel lost on Saturday night. Can he come back and be champion..YES he can. I just hope this lost does not effect him too bad mentally. Boxing is a tough sport and ONLY the strong survive when the bell rings. My hats are off to Miguel for a great fight. Dig in NSB...



    Marg victory analysis thread coming shortly...

    great post!!!.. but... u forgot one.... Margo is just a tough sob.....

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    • THE REED
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      #3
      Originally posted by V. WEBB JR.
      *DISCLAIMER*- This is by NO means a flame or bait thread. I just want to take this time to SERIOUSLY look at the fight and the reasons why I (not you or anyone else) believe Miguel lost the fight on Saturday Night.

      Reason #1. Gameplan

      Going into any BIG fight, one has to have a strategy, a game plan. Not just a game plan, but one that FITS your opponent. This takes time and preparation, much training and film study of your opponent. Now I believe that Team Cotto studied Marg, but I don't think they had the RIGHT game plan to beat him. Yes Cotto boxed and moved and landed some GREAT, FLUSH shots to the head, but WHERE WAS THE BODY WORK???????!!!!!!! I think that was his FIRST mistake, he did NOT dig to the body and Marg had his legs the entire fight, which helped him in the second half of the fight.

      Reason #2. Defense

      Personally, I see this as Miguel's BIGGEST weakness. From 140 to now, he has been hit easily and hurt too much for a fighter of his caliber. They say in other sports that defense wins championships and that hold true to boxing as well! Everyone can deliver a shot, but everyone CAN'T take a shot. In the second half of the fight, that is what I saw. Marg was NOT hitting Miguel with DEVASTATING shots, but they added up and lead to Miguel's demise. Miguel HAS to tighten up his defense, or he will find himself hurt against the better guys in the sport.

      Reason #3. Stamina
      I know for a fact that Miguel trained hard for this fight! He looked great. He looked prepared. But down the stretch, he began to tire. In this sport a champion or challenger HAS to be prepared for ANY AND EVERYTHING! Every fight is NOT going to be over in 4 rounds or even 8, therefore one has to be in TIP-TOP SHAPE! Miguel ran out of gas from all of the moving that he did (which was smart) and it cost him in the second half of the fight. On the contrary, his opponent, never SEEMED to have tired and capitalized on Miguel's fatigue.

      Conclusion
      Hope this isn't too long, but this why I believe that Miguel lost on Saturday night. Can he come back and be champion..YES he can. I just hope this lost does not effect him too bad mentally. Boxing is a tough sport and ONLY the strong survive when the bell rings. My hats are off to Miguel for a great fight. Dig in NSB...



      Marg victory analysis thread coming shortly...
      he didnt get tired because he didnt train for 12 rounds


      he got tired because someone was beating on his body the entire fight... u can only train for so much

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      • COACH WEBB
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        #4
        Originally posted by mellow_mood
        great post!!!.. but... u forgot one.... Margo is just a tough sob.....
        you are right..but I have my Margo top 3 reasons for victory thread coming soon...

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        • The Prowler
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          #5
          My TOP 3 reasons why Miguel lost

          1margarito is a real fighter
          2cotto is a ***** who has no heart
          3quitto was a paper champ


          conclusion

          he was beaten like a snitch

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          • Dynamite Kid
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            #6
            Originally posted by V. WEBB JR.
            *DISCLAIMER*- This is by NO means a flame or bait thread. I just want to take this time to SERIOUSLY look at the fight and the reasons why I (not you or anyone else) believe Miguel lost the fight on Saturday Night.

            Reason #1. Gameplan

            Going into any BIG fight, one has to have a strategy, a game plan. Not just a game plan, but one that FITS your opponent. This takes time and preparation, much training and film study of your opponent. Now I believe that Team Cotto studied Marg, but I don't think they had the RIGHT game plan to beat him. Yes Cotto boxed and moved and landed some GREAT, FLUSH shots to the head, but WHERE WAS THE BODY WORK???????!!!!!!! I think that was his FIRST mistake, he did NOT dig to the body and Marg had his legs the entire fight, which helped him in the second half of the fight.

            Reason #2. Defense

            Personally, I see this as Miguel's BIGGEST weakness. From 140 to now, he has been hit easily and hurt too much for a fighter of his caliber. They say in other sports that defense wins championships and that hold true to boxing as well! Everyone can deliver a shot, but everyone CAN'T take a shot. In the second half of the fight, that is what I saw. Marg was NOT hitting Miguel with DEVASTATING shots, but they added up and lead to Miguel's demise. Miguel HAS to tighten up his defense, or he will find himself hurt against the better guys in the sport.

            Reason #3. Stamina
            I know for a fact that Miguel trained hard for this fight! He looked great. He looked prepared. But down the stretch, he began to tire. In this sport a champion or challenger HAS to be prepared for ANY AND EVERYTHING! Every fight is NOT going to be over in 4 rounds or even 8, therefore one has to be in TIP-TOP SHAPE! Miguel ran out of gas from all of the moving that he did (which was smart) and it cost him in the second half of the fight. On the contrary, his opponent, never SEEMED to have tired and capitalized on Miguel's fatigue.

            Conclusion
            Hope this isn't too long, but this why I believe that Miguel lost on Saturday night. Can he come back and be champion..YES he can. I just hope this lost does not effect him too bad mentally. Boxing is a tough sport and ONLY the strong survive when the bell rings. My hats are off to Miguel for a great fight. Dig in NSB...



            Marg victory analysis thread coming shortly...

            ......good post

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            • williamhvx1
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              #7
              GREAT stuff ...
              uum imo cotto did try to hit margarito on the body but everytime he did all he hit was margarito elbow .. margarito defense is great and is elbow protected is body and is glove is face at the same time (winky wright style)... margarito did hit cotto in the body and that got him and the end...

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              • deevel79
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                #8
                Originally posted by mellow_mood
                great post!!!.. but... u forgot one.... Margo is just a tough sob.....
                Marg is infact one tough SOB! Those shots that Cotto was landing would've put down pretty much any other WW in the division.

                Once Cotto saw that his best shots barely fazed Marg, he became discouraged. ****, who wouldnt?

                In my eyes, Cotto's main reasons for losing was his stamina, and the fact that he let Margo walk him down into the ropes. Although he was countering well off of the ropes, Margos' relentless pressure was too much for Cotto when he had him against the ropes.

                Props to both fighters, but especially to Tony.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by V. WEBB JR.
                  *DISCLAIMER*- This is by NO means a flame or bait thread. I just want to take this time to SERIOUSLY look at the fight and the reasons why I (not you or anyone else) believe Miguel lost the fight on Saturday Night.

                  Reason #1. Gameplan

                  Going into any BIG fight, one has to have a strategy, a game plan. Not just a game plan, but one that FITS your opponent. This takes time and preparation, much training and film study of your opponent. Now I believe that Team Cotto studied Marg, but I don't think they had the RIGHT game plan to beat him. Yes Cotto boxed and moved and landed some GREAT, FLUSH shots to the head, but WHERE WAS THE BODY WORK???????!!!!!!! I think that was his FIRST mistake, he did NOT dig to the body and Marg had his legs the entire fight, which helped him in the second half of the fight.

                  Reason #2. Defense

                  Personally, I see this as Miguel's BIGGEST weakness. From 140 to now, he has been hit easily and hurt too much for a fighter of his caliber. They say in other sports that defense wins championships and that hold true to boxing as well! Everyone can deliver a shot, but everyone CAN'T take a shot. In the second half of the fight, that is what I saw. Marg was NOT hitting Miguel with DEVASTATING shots, but they added up and lead to Miguel's demise. Miguel HAS to tighten up his defense, or he will find himself hurt against the better guys in the sport.

                  Reason #3. Stamina
                  I know for a fact that Miguel trained hard for this fight! He looked great. He looked prepared. But down the stretch, he began to tire. In this sport a champion or challenger HAS to be prepared for ANY AND EVERYTHING! Every fight is NOT going to be over in 4 rounds or even 8, therefore one has to be in TIP-TOP SHAPE! Miguel ran out of gas from all of the moving that he did (which was smart) and it cost him in the second half of the fight. On the contrary, his opponent, never SEEMED to have tired and capitalized on Miguel's fatigue.

                  Conclusion
                  Hope this isn't too long, but this why I believe that Miguel lost on Saturday night. Can he come back and be champion..YES he can. I just hope this lost does not effect him too bad mentally. Boxing is a tough sport and ONLY the strong survive when the bell rings. My hats are off to Miguel for a great fight. Dig in NSB...



                  Marg victory analysis thread coming shortly...
                  This was a good post.

                  I think Cotto had the right Plan, Its just that he also needed a plan B.

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                  • -Antonio-
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                    #10
                    I thought Miguel's defense was very solid for the most part. He just wasted too much movement and should have tried to stay in the center of the ring while circling. Apparently the corner told him to do so, so I guess he was feeling the heat because he was on the move for most of the fight.

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